2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[Darth-Piekus]

How is that a thing?

[mwillems]

The team are checking the brakes again. Hopefully just confirming everything is OK.... They keep pointing to the join between the brake duct and the exit pipe.

[EddyBaggio]

How is that a thing?

Sandbagging?

[Darth-Piekus]

No I mean how is it a thing that we might be behind again?

[mwillems]

Sky F1 team confirming comments I'd made a while back about these cars, that they will break easily on the kerbs with low and stiff suspension and this will in places help track limits be respected more.

[mwillems]

No I mean how is it a thing that we might be behind again?

Because we can't simply move to the front because we want to, the car and drivers have to be up to it

[EddyBaggio]

No I mean how is it a thing that we might be behind again?

I was hoping we would hang on to Ferrari and be closer to the top teams. But right now it does not really look like that. unfortunately.

[Darth-Piekus]

I doubt we are that much behind. and definately not behind Alfa Romeo. We haven't done any good qualifying laps yet in Bahrain. Also why is Mclaren still with some basic updates and not bring up any revised bodyworks?

[EddyBaggio]

I doubt we are that much behind. and definately not behind Alfa Romeo. We haven't done any good qualifying laps yet in Bahrain.

Ofc not, but if we cant make any predictions based on the test. What are we making predictions about?

[Emag]

No I mean how is it a thing that we might be behind again?

I was hoping we would hang on to Ferrari and be closer to the top teams. But right now it does not really look like that. unfortunately.

This is where you see the difference. Ferrari had 2 off years and immediately jumped back to the top.

Right now the discussion on Ferrari is whether they will be leading the pack or not.

On the other hand, you would be lucky if McLaren retains 4th next week. And that was the expectation really, so not much wrong with that.

But if they want to move closer to the front, they have to start working like them. When you lose 2 days of track time due to a flawed brake duct, when you also had another test to find out about this problem ...

That's not how the top teams operate.

[djos]

Oh rubbish! Take your negativity some place else please!

[bauc]

No I mean how is it a thing that we might be behind again?

I was hoping we would hang on to Ferrari and be closer to the top teams. But right now it does not really look like that. unfortunately.

This is where you see the difference. Ferrari had 2 off years and immediately jumped back to the top.

Right now the discussion on Ferrari is whether they will be leading the pack or not.

On the other hand, you would be lucky if McLaren retains 4th next week. And that was the expectation really, so not much wrong with that.

But if they want to move closer to the front, they have to start working like them. When you lose 2 days of track time due to a flawed brake duct, when you also had another test to find out about this problem ...

That's not how the top teams operate.

Excuse me, when did Ferrari jumped to the front, have I missed anything?

[DragonSGC]

No I mean how is it a thing that we might be behind again?

I was hoping we would hang on to Ferrari and be closer to the top teams. But right now it does not really look like that. unfortunately.

This is where you see the difference. Ferrari had 2 off years and immediately jumped back to the top.

Right now the discussion on Ferrari is whether they will be leading the pack or not.

On the other hand, you would be lucky if McLaren retains 4th next week. And that was the expectation really, so not much wrong with that.

But if they want to move closer to the front, they have to start working like them. When you lose 2 days of track time due to a flawed brake duct, when you also had another test to find out about this problem ...

That's not how the top teams operate.

I am guessing that the brake ducts they brought to Bahrain were different spec to the Barcelona ducts because they knew they would need more cooling requirements and can't simply revert to the barcelona spec. I feel they are trying something they think is rather important to performance as anytime the camera gets close they all huddle around the brakes, just guess whatever gamble they made isn't working out.

[Darth-Piekus]

I don't think that Mclaren has to envy anything that Mercedes, Red Bull or Ferrari has. The team is capable of getting to the top. Ferrari wasn't in any better shape from 2012 to 2019 during the era of Alonso and Vettel. They were so bad that they became a literal meme with empty promises of championships at the start of the year only to fall behind even Red Bull with huge mistakes on the organisation.

I don't know why the Brake Ducts are happened but I hope the team recovers and gives us a strong result in the next week.

All I can say is that I want to see the team mixing up on the 3 podium places on merit and not on special circumstances this year. Our drivers are one of the best on the grid. Yes I dare to say Lando Norris is better in terms of talent than Lewis or Max and Daniel is not far behind if he shows his good self.

[frosty125]

I'm not too worried I think McLaren are part of that top 4 group might be ahead of Mercedes that car looks like a struggle.