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[Sergej]

Presumably the engineering meeting either concluded that the package won't be enough to make a difference or that they pushed the initial upgrade package back to beyond the triple header. My guess is that the former is true.

In other news the white bull is back, not confirmed by team but outlets are running with it and red bull continue to hint towards it (Max's special helmet, changed their logo to red/white on twitter etc) . Red bull will race with a special white livery as a thank you to honda for the Japanese GP, as rumoured

https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull- ... grand-prix

"It's expected to be kitted out in a completely white livery, with the Red Bull logo on the engine cover painted in red, while minor blue accents feature towards the front and rear of the car."

So basically bottom line is "switch off your hopes"

anyway, happy to see the white livery, it was stunning on the RB16B, hope they won't ruin it.

[Wouter]

First video: Yuki yesterday at the factory asking for the steps before the race.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

So what do we know about Tsunoda's driving style compared to Verstappen's? I have read that Lawson's driving style is aggressive, involving late braking and pushing the car to understeer through corners. That's the opposite of Verstappen's driving style.

[Wouter]

So what do we know about Tsunoda's driving style compared to Verstappen's? I have read that Lawson's driving style is aggressive, involving late braking and pushing the car to understeer through corners. That's the opposite of Verstappen's driving style.

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It's the same. Yuki loooves a pointy car and het studied Max his drivingstyle since the F3 when Max drove F1.
He tested the RB20 in Abu Dhabi last year December and he loved it. The car did exactly what he wanted he said, which the VCARB didn't, that wasn't a pointy car.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

So what do we know about Tsunoda's driving style compared to Verstappen's? I have read that Lawson's driving style is aggressive, involving late braking and pushing the car to understeer through corners. That's the opposite of Verstappen's driving style.

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It's the same. Yuki loooves a pointy car and het studied Max his drivingstyle since the F3 when Max drove F1.
He tested the RB20 in Abu Dhabi last year December and he loved it. The car did exactly what he wanted he said, which the VCARB didn't, that wasn't a pointy car.

I'm amazed that they still gave the seat to Lawson, although they knew he has a different driving style than Max.

Yuki prefers pointy cars, as did Albon, but as Albon said, Max is on a whole other level when it comes to pointy cars. Hope Yuki will gets results.

[Zynerji]

I've always felt a bit of anti-Yuki bias from RBR. It's almost as if they didn't want him, but Honda did. I was actually surprised that Yuki didn't immediately sign with AMR when the Honda partnership was announced.

[Wouter]

I've always felt a bit of anti-Yuki bias from RBR. It's almost as if they didn't want him, but Honda did. I was actually surprised that Yuki didn't immediately sign with AMR when the Honda partnership was announced.

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Not RBR was anti-Yuki but Horner was and is! Marko was always a huge fan of Yuki.
He arranged that Yuki came after just one year F3 >>> F1. And NOT because of the Honda money!
Marko also wanted Yuki in the car this year but Horner used his veto!

[Jurgen von Diaz]

A year ago, Horner said that it's Wache, not Newey, when it came to their dominance. Now Marko has said the obvious:

https://racingnews365.com/marko-makes-a ... lawson-axe

Marko has now admitted the lack of performance in the RB21 is related to the fact Newey is no longer with Red Bull.

"Of course, we're missing a man like that," said Marko, speaking to OE24. "A Newey is a Newey."

[Wouter]

Well, it seems all the 4 RB cars will be in white at the Suzuka circuit.

The RBR logo is white, Max his helmet is white and the RB21 will be white.

[SB15]

He’d make room, he’s not stupid enough to let Verstappen pass through his fingers twice without making an offer. We’ve seen how much that mistake has plagued him.

Are you most of you forgetting that Toto already has Antonelli, matter of fact, are you forgetting how having both Russell and Kimi shows the success of the Mercedes junior program?

That mistake hasn’t really plagued him much as you think, Mercedes would’ve been struggling in these regs even if they did have Verstappen, and this whole “design the car for Verstappen” is not how Mercedes operates because they give a car that works well for both drivers.

My goodness, this fairytale dream about Verstappen to Mercedes is even more hard to believe, when you consider that Max has a GT3 deal with Aston Martin so if he ever decides to quit F1, he can go straight into WEC. Which is why Aston makes the most logical sense for Max regardless of “Engine advantage”.

Verstappen IS the failure of the Merc driving program. Toto missed the generational talent after Lewis and it has cost him dearly in terms of both race wins and championships. He’s not making that mistake twice. We saw what happened last time Merc signed a generational driver in their prime, the year was 2013. George is very good, but he’s not Verstappen. Toto would do the deal because he’s not a fool, and Max would do the deal if it made sense from a performance standpoint. But I get it, you don’t want it to happen.

Dude. Me personally, you have the wrong idea if you think that I don’t want Verstappen. It don’t really matter to me because Mercedes results and victories is what I care about, but I guess I’m in defense for Russell which is not the case. Huge misunderstanding.

This is about Max, and I’m being very realistic about his intentions, if you look at it from a different perspective, Aston Martin is the much better fit for him even if Toto (Which he probably won’t now) gets him. But that’s if Max doesn’t to stay in F1, Aston Martin has a WEC program for LeMans endurance.

Which I don’t know how any of you are not getting.

[SB15]

Toto would drop Russell in a second if Max wanted that seat

I’m seeing reports that Toto is about to give Russell an extension. So, the more I live, the more I doubt it because it wouldn’t really make any sense to jump to Mercedes from Max’s perspective.

Him transitioning to WEC while being the signed with Aston next year, would be far easier. And speaking from of Aston you’re all completely forgetting they have:
1. Adrian Newey
2. Honda powertrain
3. Alonso, who now can finally team up with Max at LeMans if they both want to enter Aston’s WEC team.

[Cs98]

Dude. Me personally, you have the wrong idea if you think that I don’t want Verstappen. It don’t really matter to me because Mercedes results and victories is what I care about, but I guess I’m in defense for Russell which is not the case. Huge misunderstanding.

This is about Max, and I’m being very realistic about his intentions, if you look at it from a different perspective, Aston Martin is the much better fit for him even if Toto (Which he probably won’t now) gets him. But that’s if Max doesn’t to stay in F1, Aston Martin has a WEC program for LeMans endurance.

Which I don’t know how any of you are not getting.

Max going to another team would be to win in F1, not for WEC or anything else really. Merc with their winning pedigree and engine program presents a far better alternative than Aston who have shown nothing except a proclivity to throw money at big names. And Honda was late to join the regs, I doubt they are on the same page as Merc in the engine development. My final prediction is that he stays at RB if things go fairly well this year and their 2026 engine shows decent promise, all else he leaves for Merc.

[organic]

My expectation is that if the car isn't competing for wins each weekend by the summer Max will be out. So the first two packages are critical

[Xyz22]

My expectation is that if the car isn't competing for wins each weekend by the summer Max will be out. So the first two packages are critical

Max won't move before 2027.

[ringo]

Dude. Me personally, you have the wrong idea if you think that I don’t want Verstappen. It don’t really matter to me because Mercedes results and victories is what I care about, but I guess I’m in defense for Russell which is not the case. Huge misunderstanding.

This is about Max, and I’m being very realistic about his intentions, if you look at it from a different perspective, Aston Martin is the much better fit for him even if Toto (Which he probably won’t now) gets him. But that’s if Max doesn’t to stay in F1, Aston Martin has a WEC program for LeMans endurance.

Which I don’t know how any of you are not getting.

Max going to another team would be to win in F1, not for WEC or anything else really. Merc with their winning pedigree and engine program presents a far better alternative than Aston who have shown nothing except a proclivity to throw money at big names. And Honda was late to join the regs, I doubt they are on the same page as Merc in the engine development. My final prediction is that he stays at RB if things go fairly well this year and their 2026 engine shows decent promise, all else he leaves for Merc.

To be fair to Aston, Mercedes was once Brawn, which was once Earth Dreams Honda, which was crap.
So if Aston has the right resources, there is no reason why they cannot make the step up to be the next Brawn or Mercedes. 2023 showed they have the talent to produce a fast car, but did not have the organization to continuously develop. With Newey and Cowell, I do not think that team is going to stand still.