New qualifying format...

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A-Bap
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Words can't express how crushed I am...

1). It will be very hard to follow: Can you imagine how intense the TV graphics will have to be, and how they'll utterly fail the viewer?
2). Endless confusion: Just one example: eliminated driver on an out lap impairs a live driver's a hot lap. Protests follow, etc. This will be common and cost the sport precious legitimacy.
3). Its embarrassing for fans: The pinnacle of motorsports making another gimmicky change in attempt to fix something that wasn't broken.


But over and above this, I'd like to submit this factor for discussion: the new format effectively does away with the fascinating pit lane/pit garage dynamics, which are some of the most distinguishing and hard-to-see dimensions of the sport.

Im talking about those delicious details: the driver's computer screens, close ups of the cars & the drivers faces, views into the cock-pit, the heat blankets, the blowers. You even hear different sounds.

These little things are what communicate F1's other worldliness. It crystallizes the technical and competitive supremacy of F1 compared to Indycar, WEC or NASCAR, especially for newbies. Its an important and badly needed visual differentiator. And soon, it will be gone.

Footnote: The qualy part of the spectacle is what hooked MY WIFE. The race, to her, was just another car race, and that's what the new qualy will look like.

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djos
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FrukostScones wrote:Bernie thinks new qualy still could be stopped (by Fia world m s council)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2016/ ... ac3bac2403
Good, Bloody stupid idea full stop !
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proteus wrote:Charlie Whiting needs to get a paintball gun, so he will be able to shoot those that are out with red dye, to reduce the confusion of the elimination process..
To enhance this idea...

All the cars go round and round. Charlie shoots them with a paintball gun as they go past. The car with the least amount of hits gets pole, going down the order with more hits.

Each race can have a special "celebrity" guest with a second gun (Russia's will of course be Putin).

In case of someone getting paint on their visor, Maldonado will also be brought back, as the Safety Car driver.


In seriousness though, although most seem to think this new qualifying format is horrible idea, all the teams have approved it, so they must have looked into it and thought it a good idea, from the top team to the bottom team. Would they have done so if they thought it would put them at a disadvantage or make life harder for them? I feel like either we're missing something or the teams are.

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OneAlex wrote:
proteus wrote:Charlie Whiting needs to get a paintball gun, so he will be able to shoot those that are out with red dye, to reduce the confusion of the elimination process..
To enhance this idea...

All the cars go round and round. Charlie shoots them with a paintball gun as they go past. The car with the least amount of hits gets pole, going down the order with more hits.
something like this? only slow instead of stupid ..only the first part is applicable
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New qualifying:
Q1 & Q2: 16 mins. Elimination starts after 7 min. 7 drivers out in each.
Q3: 8 drivers left. 12 mins. old system.
#AMuS

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F1NAC wrote:
New qualifying:
Q1 & Q2: 16 mins. Elimination starts after 7 min. 7 drivers out in each.
Q3: 8 drivers left. 12 mins. old system.
#AMuS
A bit better.
still a silly thing to do.

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Gridlock
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Has anyone used the re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic metaphor yet?
#58

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Bernie doesn't like the revised "new qualifying" so it's not a done deal yet. We may still end up with the original "new qualifying" which no one, except Bernie, seems to like.

Can anyone see the issue with Bernie's qualifying format changes and F1's popularity? It seems they make changes to keep the old man happy at the expense of the fans.

Metaphors about geese and golden eggs come to mind... #-o
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yo.. what?

now we get hybrid qualifying.:

Amus: Q1 and Q2 to new style, Q3 old style.

Bernie promised his guys get the software done till Melbourne:

https://translate.google.de/translate?s ... rl&act=url
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FrukostScones wrote:yo.. what?

now we get hybrid qualifying.:

Amus: Q1 and Q2 to new style, Q3 old style.

Bernie promised his guys get the software done till Melbourne:

https://translate.google.de/translate?s ... rl&act=url
This is not serious. But what I can say, what they have decided the last years hasnt been serious either. :(

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Two weeks to the Australian GP weekend and they don't even know how they'll conduct qualifying? If they weren't before, they're definitely making it up as they go now...

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How i imagine the new qualifying format:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epvmNF-uaus
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Since we're just getting silly at this point...

Saturday, sprint race starting in championship position order (first race uses last year's championship positions - drivers who weren't in last season start in driver number order) and then the main GP has a reverse grid from the results of the Saturday Sprint Race.
Favourite driver: Lando Norris
Favourite team: McLaren

Turned down the chance to meet Vettel at Silverstone in 2007. He was a test driver at the time and I didn't think it was worth queuing!! 🤦🏻‍♂️

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why not just pick the random names from a bowl

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Bring back one hour. 12 timed laps for each driver. No Q1, 2, 3 sessions. Just straight up drive as fast as you can.

This can also be an area where they can do tests, but they should not impede any driver.