2025 Alpine F1 Team

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Wow, seriously, time to give Jack his seat back, Franco is wasting a an F1 seat!
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How do you crash like that?
It doesn't turn.

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AR3-GP wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 17:36
How do you crash like that?
He phoned Maldonado.
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djos wrote:
03 Aug 2025, 02:37
They need to sell a chunk of Renault shares to CH and stop messing around with the Alpine brand, as nobody cares about it.
I see this as a possibility. Then CH can throw his old buddy Cyril a bone and try to pull in Hyundai backing.
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lio007 wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 12:07
Oh dear...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fran ... /10748908/
However, Colapinto crashed this morning at the Turn 11 right-hander, one of the faster curves at this circuit. The Argentinian was uninjured.

“During Day 2 of Pirelli Tyre Testing at the Hungaroring this morning, Franco Colapinto had an incident at Turn 11. Franco was assessed on site at the medical centre and is OK,” an Alpine spokesperson has stated.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GxqQVXmXcAA ... name=large
Not a small one...
Man Colapinto looked surprisingly good last year in a Williams(still crashed a lot), but this season...
djos wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 12:36
Wow, seriously, time to give Jack his seat back, Franco is wasting a an F1 seat!
Maybe it's Aron's turn.
I think he might be the best young driver they have.

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dren wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 17:55
djos wrote:
03 Aug 2025, 02:37
They need to sell a chunk of Renault shares to CH and stop messing around with the Alpine brand, as nobody cares about it.
I see this as a possibility. Then CH can throw his old buddy Cyril a bone and try to pull in Hyundai backing.
Hyundai in F1 would certainly be a coup for him!
"In downforce we trust"

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Sevach wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 19:23
lio007 wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 12:07
Oh dear...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fran ... /10748908/
However, Colapinto crashed this morning at the Turn 11 right-hander, one of the faster curves at this circuit. The Argentinian was uninjured.

“During Day 2 of Pirelli Tyre Testing at the Hungaroring this morning, Franco Colapinto had an incident at Turn 11. Franco was assessed on site at the medical centre and is OK,” an Alpine spokesperson has stated.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GxqQVXmXcAA ... name=large
Not a small one...
Man Colapinto looked surprisingly good last year in a Williams(still crashed a lot), but this season...
djos wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 12:36
Wow, seriously, time to give Jack his seat back, Franco is wasting a an F1 seat!
Maybe it's Aron's turn.
I think he might be the best young driver they have.
Jack wasn’t given a fair go, so he should at least get a season or two to prove himself like most other rookies do.
"In downforce we trust"

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djos wrote:
07 Aug 2025, 09:22
Sevach wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 19:23
Not a small one...
Man Colapinto looked surprisingly good last year in a Williams(still crashed a lot), but this season...
djos wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 12:36
Wow, seriously, time to give Jack his seat back, Franco is wasting a an F1 seat!
Maybe it's Aron's turn.
I think he might be the best young driver they have.
Jack wasn’t given a fair go, so he should at least get a season or two to prove himself like most other rookies do.
Jack had enough. He was given many practices, many runs in older cars, and a last year start. He is simply average, too weak for F1. I think Helmut Marco was right about him.

This team, in order to bounce back, needs 2 good drivers that deliver and can help to improve the car.

I think Aron should be given a chance this year, to check his abilities and answer the question if they need to look for another driver for 2026.

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Foryster wrote:
07 Aug 2025, 09:55
djos wrote:
07 Aug 2025, 09:22
Sevach wrote:
06 Aug 2025, 19:23

Not a small one...
Man Colapinto looked surprisingly good last year in a Williams(still crashed a lot), but this season...


Maybe it's Aron's turn.
I think he might be the best young driver they have.
Jack wasn’t given a fair go, so he should at least get a season or two to prove himself like most other rookies do.
Jack had enough. He was given many practices, many runs in older cars, and a last year start. He is simply average, too weak for F1. I think Helmut Marco was right about him.

This team, in order to bounce back, needs 2 good drivers that deliver and can help to improve the car.

I think Aron should be given a chance this year, to check his abilities and answer the question if they need to look for another driver for 2026.
Jack had multiple of sessions were he was faster than Pierre, one qually were he beat him on merit and was only the slowest driver in a practice session twice.

Franco has spent more time at the bottom of the timesheets than any other driver this year, and has crashed more than any other driver this year.
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djos wrote:
07 Aug 2025, 11:48
Foryster wrote:
07 Aug 2025, 09:55
djos wrote:
07 Aug 2025, 09:22


Jack wasn’t given a fair go, so he should at least get a season or two to prove himself like most other rookies do.
Jack had enough. He was given many practices, many runs in older cars, and a last year start. He is simply average, too weak for F1. I think Helmut Marco was right about him.

This team, in order to bounce back, needs 2 good drivers that deliver and can help to improve the car.

I think Aron should be given a chance this year, to check his abilities and answer the question if they need to look for another driver for 2026.
Jack had multiple of sessions were he was faster than Pierre, one qually were he beat him on merit and was only the slowest driver in a practice session twice.

Franco has spent more time at the bottom of the timesheets than any other driver this year, and has crashed more than any other driver this year.
I'm not defending Franco at all. He needs to go now. Before Williams no one had ever heard of this guy. We can see why. Jack might be better but still not good enough IMHO.

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Jack wasn’t given a chance tho, even at the first race of the year, the media were talking about him being dropped after 5 races.

Imagine if Mercedes did that to Kimi who’s also had a challenging run of form?
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Foryster wrote:
07 Aug 2025, 12:01
Jack might be better but still not good enough IMHO.
It seems that drivers like Sainz Jr and Hamilton are not interested in Alpine for some reason? There is little discussion around obtaining the services of Verstappen either? :?:

Are Alpine not able to offer the salaries (substantial in the case of Hamilton & Verstappen) and competitiveness which these drivers demand?

Foryster wrote:
04 Aug 2025, 11:11
3 years ago, they were in front of Mclaren, P4 in standings, with 2 good drivers Alonso and Ocon and Piastri as a junior driver. With Alan Prost as ambasador, Otmar as teamlead, with engine customer. Why, why it all went so wrong.
Did Rossi and de Meo steer the team well?

Was it right to irritate and lose technical guru Pat Fry by not committing sufficient resources, to lose Prost, to lose Alonso, to lose Piastri, to dismiss Ocon, to dismiss Alan Permane and to dismiss Szafnauer? :?:

Was closing Viry the right decision, noting that Mecachrome (also located at Viry?) will now be producing parts for rival manufacturer Audi Sport F1 in 2026? :?:

One might be forgiven for thinking Alpine F1 Team are not serious about winning the world championships, despite Flavio's claim of a plan to be in world championship contention by 2027. Is this plan feasible?

One notices that Alpine were not in the discussion for signing designer Adrian Newey for some reason.

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djos wrote: Hyundai in F1 would certainly be a coup for him!
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Perhaps Alpine should be trying to get someone like Bottas or Perez in the car…
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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
10 Aug 2025, 16:37
Perhaps Alpine should be trying to get someone like Bottas or Perez in the car…
and waste millions of dollars invested in their Alpine Academy?

Yeah ok, that's definitely something Alpine would do....
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