2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Fakepivot]

from that blur image cockpit placement is far back wasn't that rumored to be the case.

[deadhead]

[F1NAC]

from that blur image cockpit placement is far back wasn't that rumored to be the case.

This is probably pre 2022 car if anything. Judging by the sidepod lines

[Waz]

The only strategy errors I can remember are Silverstone and to a lesser extent Baku.

If there were anymore than that, I forgot about them already

That Baku error was a 14 point swing, so was very costly indeed.

[f1316]

The only strategy errors I can remember are Silverstone and to a lesser extent Baku.

If there were anymore than that, I forgot about them already

That Baku error was a 14 point swing, so was very costly indeed.

More than that in practice. With Charles out front and pulling away, the Saint/Perez clash doesn’t happen. Call that at least another 12 points for Ferrari and less for Mclaren whatever Norris gained as a result. Whether you blame strategy or the (later deemed illegal) McLaren rear wing, that was a decisive moment in the WCC, undoubtedly.

[Fakepivot]

Nha I think its Canada, Silverstone, walking away zero points is probably the worst.

[Seanspeed]

The only strategy errors I can remember are Silverstone and to a lesser extent Baku.

If there were anymore than that, I forgot about them already

That Baku error was a 14 point swing, so was very costly indeed.

More than that in practice. With Charles out front and pulling away, the Saint/Perez clash doesn’t happen. Call that at least another 12 points for Ferrari and less for Mclaren whatever Norris gained as a result. Whether you blame strategy or the (later deemed illegal) McLaren rear wing, that was a decisive moment in the WCC, undoubtedly.

We can always play hindsight and track down 14 points or more somewhere to say we blew it, but that really ignores that no team is ever perfect throughout a year, especially on such a ludicrously long calendar year.

I think if anything, the Barcelona upgrade blip had by far the most impact on Ferrari's championship hopes. And frankly, it's a miracle we were ever really in the fight to begin with. Cuz we absolutely did NOT have the best car this year or anything really all that close. We had the fastest car on only a sparing few weekends.

Basically, I dont necessarily see it as Ferrari blowing the WCC, moreso Mclaren nearly bungling what should have been an incredibly clear cut championship win.

[f1316]

That Baku error was a 14 point swing, so was very costly indeed.

More than that in practice. With Charles out front and pulling away, the Saint/Perez clash doesn’t happen. Call that at least another 12 points for Ferrari and less for Mclaren whatever Norris gained as a result. Whether you blame strategy or the (later deemed illegal) McLaren rear wing, that was a decisive moment in the WCC, undoubtedly.

We can always play hindsight and track down 14 points or more somewhere to say we blew it, but that really ignores that no team is ever perfect throughout a year, especially on such a ludicrously long calendar year.

I think if anything, the Barcelona upgrade blip had by far the most impact on Ferrari's championship hopes. And frankly, it's a miracle we were ever really in the fight to begin with. Cuz we absolutely did NOT have the best car this year or anything really all that close. We had the fastest car on only a sparing few weekends.

Basically, I dont necessarily see it as Ferrari blowing the WCC, moreso Mclaren nearly bungling what should have been an incredibly clear cut championship win.

Yes, I agree and we didn’t have the best car at really any stage. McLaren would also point to lots of ifs and buts on their side, I’m sure. But nevertheless the swing on that weekend, if taken in isolation, was enough to alter the outcome of the world championship. That’s made all the more galling by the nature of the rear wing trick that enabled McLaren to win.

C’est la vie, in any case.

[catent]

That Baku error was a 14 point swing, so was very costly indeed.

More than that in practice. With Charles out front and pulling away, the Saint/Perez clash doesn’t happen. Call that at least another 12 points for Ferrari and less for Mclaren whatever Norris gained as a result. Whether you blame strategy or the (later deemed illegal) McLaren rear wing, that was a decisive moment in the WCC, undoubtedly.

We can always play hindsight and track down 14 points or more somewhere to say we blew it, but that really ignores that no team is ever perfect throughout a year, especially on such a ludicrously long calendar year.

I think if anything, the Barcelona upgrade blip had by far the most impact on Ferrari's championship hopes. And frankly, it's a miracle we were ever really in the fight to begin with. Cuz we absolutely did NOT have the best car this year or anything really all that close. We had the fastest car on only a sparing few weekends.

Basically, I dont necessarily see it as Ferrari blowing the WCC, moreso Mclaren nearly bungling what should have been an incredibly clear cut championship win.

I agree about the Barcelona development misstep being the decisive factor but think saying "frankly, it's a miracle we were ever really in the fight to begin with ... [Ferrari] absolutely did NOT have the best car this year or anything really all that close" is a bit off-the-mark. McLaren had the best racecar on the balance of the season and Red Bull was a tale of two halves. Ferrari was there or thereabouts for most of it, and absolutely would've been deserving winners of the WCC had they managed to pull it off.

[venkyhere]

Yes, Sainz has not been 'the obedient wingman' and has been at loggerheads with LeClerc.
Yes, Sainz has crashed his car a few too many times and cost points.
But he has proved that he can 'win on merit' and not just 'win by luck when front runners crash out'. He has demonstrated this many times over the past 4 seasons.
He is a damn good driver, not just 'solid' (typical media word). The 'talent gap' between him and LeClerc in 2024 and the same in 2021 are completely different. Sainz has improved leaps and bounds as a driver in the red seat of Ferrari - not even his worst enemies would refute this truth.

I have a feeling that sacking him inorder to bring in Hamilton, has a high possibility of being "the big Netflix blunder" decision that no one in the team wants to talk about, because they have mindfully 'parked aside' their worry about this possibility.

[Farnborough]

Unfortunately for Sainz, he didn't expect Hamilton to become available to upend his contract discussion with Ferrari. That in itself a fairly unique event.

Now also battling with incoming next wave of driver graduate for team places, this making the marketplace much more liquid and choppy. Teams attempt to rejig and "blood" incomers prior to next rules uncertainty too, all coincide to give unseen outcome.

Genuine and honest leaving "ceremony " with he and his father driving together shows the regard he's held in at the team.

LH coming in ..... we really don't know, do we? what the outcome will be. Further, no real way of telling until the running begins next year.

My feeling is that there was always a desire (mentioned over the years in commentary from Toto) about ultimately wanting to drive for Ferrari. And, completely understable in any driver's career, if possible.

I don't feel Hamilton "owes" the sport anything more, a free pass if you like, to enjoy his time there. I admire his driving immensely, but not the hullabaloo, both positive & negative, that's surrounds him.

I don't feel there's been any real platform in MB car & team these last three years to competently judge his absolute performance in much realistic fashion (nore GR for that matter) to further project where he'll rest in Ferrari.

Naturally, ultimate reactions slow in a human with age, but that completely misses the hard wired and embedded skill that's also such an important part of how a driver acts in extremis. We're certainly going to find out.

Leclerc has definitely "matured" in how he measures out his own skill set during race weekends too, this year being one of his best. It'll be a fascinating contrast to see the both of them perform in the same team next year. My feeling is CL to hold authority in absolute over a season pace, but with a much finer gap than is commonly predicted by many.

Sainz, I feel will give Albon big problems in over a season performance and come out the superior for 2025.

Both CS & CL have significantly advanced their own view of their own capabilities over this year I feel. Each arriving at the end of race season more rounded and understanding of their own potential along with how to enact that too.

[deadhead]

LEC had the worst qualifying performance of his career in 2024 which made SAI “appear” closer to LEC than he actually is.

I don’t see any improvement with Sainz since he joined Ferrari and obviously non of the other top teams saw him as a viable alternative to whatever young talent they were after instead of hiring Sainz.

[Z-one]

LEC had the worst qualifying performance of his career in 2024 which made SAI “appear” closer to LEC than he actually is.

I don’t see any improvement with Sainz since he joined Ferrari and obviously non of the other top teams saw him as a viable alternative to whatever young talent they were after instead of hiring Sainz.

in fact, he do improve his level of performing a better driver than CL in specific race, in his tr, in his social media, in after race interview.

he could perform a great politicans by his sponsor, by his father ,by his operation team. also he has establish a persona of stable but not fast，wise in strategy，while establish his teammate as opposite，by all of his tool

in effect I have seen huge amount of essay to prove that Ferrari has do a wrong employment, but luckily I have seen such an essay to prove he is the worst driver in Ferrari
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1000794634873470997

sorry, which is what I want to say, actually I don want to talk about Spanish driver any more, let us look forward , don't look back

[Mattchu]

I have a feeling that sacking him in order to bring in Hamilton, has a high possibility of being "the big Netflix blunder" decision that no one in the team wants to talk about, because they have mindfully 'parked aside' their worry about this possibility.

He wasn`t sacked like Perez has just been, Ferrari just decided not to renew his contract, there`s a pretty big difference!

[SharkY]

LEC had the worst qualifying performance of his career in 2024 which made SAI “appear” closer to LEC than he actually is.

I don’t see any improvement with Sainz since he joined Ferrari and obviously non of the other top teams saw him as a viable alternative to whatever young talent they were after instead of hiring Sainz.

Well, TBH Sainz's performance this season was really good. He was steadily bringing good points, which was crucial for the team to have a shot at WCC. And he landed in Williams, because the top teams were filled. Merc wanted to invest in "future megastar", McLaren has 2 great drivers (even though Oscar was quite uneven this season) and that leaves RB. I just can't fathom, why they considered LAW/TSU/PER over SAI, based purely on driving. Other factors must have come into play.

On the other hand, I feel that Lewis might bring an improvement over Carlos in one aspect - fight on the track. Looking over past 4 seasons, Carlos didn't strike me as someone, who could particularly well defend or attack for position.