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-wkst- wrote:
18 Mar 2025, 08:56
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18 Mar 2025, 02:39
-wkst- wrote:
17 Mar 2025, 20:47
Well, it’s now or never with Newey design input for the AMR25.

If we assume that they will bring their main upgrade package delayed in Barcelona (FW rules), Newey still has ~1 month until production needs to start.
This Sunday will be 3 weeks since testing. There could be upgrades for Bahrain(6 weeks from testing).
Even if there are some very low-hanging fruits for Newey to harvest and he is already working on the AMR25, his inputs need to be validated in CFD and the tunnel, before even production can start. That's not a process of just some days.

I personally could imagine that he will help with the AMR25, as Stroll will beg him to do so, but maybe just in a consulting role. I guess Newey could be already very useful if the AMR25-team only can ask him for his opinion of planned steps, especially regarding the floor (ground effect). He could help the team that they don't fall into the trap of bouncing again, trying to ad downforce. His opnion about the mechanical side of the car. etc.
Remember a modification doesn't count as a new part. Many times they can usebthe same floor just with edited skirts,diffuser add or remove guides and we will never know it because they don't have to list it in FIA upgrades as new parts.

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Chain's circuit layout is packed with slow speed and medium speed turns. 'AMR24' was competitive in quali spec last year.
Unless 'AMR25' is a departure from last years car characteristic; it should be competitive (at least on one lap pace).

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NAPI10 wrote:
18 Mar 2025, 18:43
Chain's circuit layout is packed with slow speed and medium speed turns. 'AMR24' was competitive in quali spec last year.
Unless 'AMR25' is a departure from last years car characteristic; it should be competitive (at least on one lap pace).
It's also packed with high speed corners and long straights. It's quite the litmus test for an F1 car.
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16 Mar 2025, 23:23
Hello all! This is my first post. There is a great pic of Alonso going over the gravel and loosing control of the car... how do i popst the pic? You can see it in this link
Oh my goodness! You don't know what a favor you've done me. I've been looking for something like this for days. And, honestly, I had my doubts.

I'm giving you 100 points; since this is your first post, I think you deserve it.

I haven't been able to read the forum these past few days. There have been technical issues; pages wouldn't load. In case no one mentioned it before, I think Lance is doing well in the wet.

We'll see how it goes at the next race. Things aren't how they start, but how they end.

Pfff... what a relief!!!
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Good article on motorsport - How the Australian GP proved a good relationship between race engineer and F1 driver is crucial :
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10704630/

With Chris Cronin being promoted to Chief Engineer, Alonso is now working with Andrew Vizard. What are your thoughts on him? The communication between them has been really good during the GP.

One point of curiosity: Andrew was appointed as Lance Stroll's race engineer in 2024, but has now moved to work with Fernando Alonso. Do you think Alonso chose to work with him, or was it Stroll who wanted a change?"

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Nikosar wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 17:29
Good article on motorsport - How the Australian GP proved a good relationship between race engineer and F1 driver is crucial :
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10704630/

With Chris Cronin being promoted to Chief Engineer, Alonso is now working with Andrew Vizard. What are your thoughts on him? The communication between them has been really good during the GP.

One point of curiosity: Andrew was appointed as Lance Stroll's race engineer in 2024, but has now moved to work with Fernando Alonso. Do you think Alonso chose to work with him, or was it Stroll who wanted a change?"
Stroll screamed at Andrew a lot over the radio last year, but he's screamed at his race engineer for years.

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Andy Cowell on Beyond the Grid Podcast.


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TyreSlip wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 17:34
Nikosar wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 17:29
Good article on motorsport - How the Australian GP proved a good relationship between race engineer and F1 driver is crucial :
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10704630/

With Chris Cronin being promoted to Chief Engineer, Alonso is now working with Andrew Vizard. What are your thoughts on him? The communication between them has been really good during the GP.

One point of curiosity: Andrew was appointed as Lance Stroll's race engineer in 2024, but has now moved to work with Fernando Alonso. Do you think Alonso chose to work with him, or was it Stroll who wanted a change?"
Stroll screamed at Andrew a lot over the radio last year, but he's screamed at his race engineer for years.
I noticed that Alonso’s last race engineer always presented options to Alonso. He never said "do this", rather "you can do this" or "is now available". The new race engineer caught himself saying "do this" and immediately changed the phrasing during FP3.

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diffuser wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 17:54
TyreSlip wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 17:34
Nikosar wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 17:29
Good article on motorsport - How the Australian GP proved a good relationship between race engineer and F1 driver is crucial :
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10704630/

With Chris Cronin being promoted to Chief Engineer, Alonso is now working with Andrew Vizard. What are your thoughts on him? The communication between them has been really good during the GP.

One point of curiosity: Andrew was appointed as Lance Stroll's race engineer in 2024, but has now moved to work with Fernando Alonso. Do you think Alonso chose to work with him, or was it Stroll who wanted a change?"
Stroll screamed at Andrew a lot over the radio last year, but he's screamed at his race engineer for years.
I noticed that Alonso’s last race engineer always presented options to Alonso. He never said "do this", rather "you can do this" or "is now available". The new race engineer caught himself saying "do this" and immediately changed the phrasing during FP3.
I listen to Stroll on the radio sometimes, and he seems to require coaching when it comes to car management. For instance, if his engineer wanted him to lift and coast more in a certain corner, if Lance wasn't doing it, the engineer would gently say something like, "I see you're doing more lift and coast but we need a little more lift in that corner."

A lot of times, Lance will replay with "SHUT UP!" if the engineer repeats himself more than once.

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TyreSlip wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 18:47
diffuser wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 17:54
TyreSlip wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 17:34


Stroll screamed at Andrew a lot over the radio last year, but he's screamed at his race engineer for years.
I noticed that Alonso’s last race engineer always presented options to Alonso. He never said "do this", rather "you can do this" or "is now available". The new race engineer caught himself saying "do this" and immediately changed the phrasing during FP3.
I listen to Stroll on the radio sometimes, and he seems to require coaching when it comes to car management. For instance, if his engineer wanted him to lift and coast more in a certain corner, if Lance wasn't doing it, the engineer would gently say something like, "I see you're doing more lift and coast but we need a little more lift in that corner."

A lot of times, Lance will replay with "SHUT UP!" if the engineer repeats himself more than once.
Managing driver's tantrum & keep them calm on the track is part of the job for race engineers. These conversations are available to the team for scrutiny n analysis.

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Zak Brown claims Max Verstappen will leave Red Bull and join Mercedes

The Telegraph. "Oh I think he’ll leave at the end of this year. Most likely to Merc [Mercedes]. There’s been talk of Aston Martin, too, with Adrian Newey joining. But as great as Adrian is – and he’s the greatest ever – you need a whole team around you."

If I was betting, I’d bet on Merc. In the last 10 years, they’ve won the championship seven or eight times. Last year they won five races (editor: Mercedes won four). They have stability. We know Toto likes him. And I think we all feel HPP [Mercedes High Performance Powertrains] is best-equipped on the power unit side heading into the new engine regulations next year."

Is this Zak saying Mercedes PU will be superior to Honda ? or Zak just using the Marko style psycho pressure on Horner.

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Fernando Alonso showing his basketball skills in China.

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Nikosar wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 22:10
Zak Brown claims Max Verstappen will leave Red Bull and join Mercedes

The Telegraph. "Oh I think he’ll leave at the end of this year. Most likely to Merc [Mercedes]. There’s been talk of Aston Martin, too, with Adrian Newey joining. But as great as Adrian is – and he’s the greatest ever – you need a whole team around you."

If I was betting, I’d bet on Merc. In the last 10 years, they’ve won the championship seven or eight times. Last year they won five races (editor: Mercedes won four). They have stability. We know Toto likes him. And I think we all feel HPP [Mercedes High Performance Powertrains] is best-equipped on the power unit side heading into the new engine regulations next year."

Is this Zak saying Mercedes PU will be superior to Honda ? or Zak just using the Marko style psycho pressure on Horner.
He is just saying that he made the right decision in staying with Merc powertrains...you expected him to say he made a mistake?

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China is expected to be a bit similar to last year for Aston. Quali cold be top 8 or even top 6 like last year but expect to be whole lot faster in the race as well but with a small caveat. Race pace was a huge improvement in Australia but intial consensus is that the car only gets to pace after losing a bit of weight from fuel. Maybe set up related but this was also notice in pre season testing as well where the car picks up pace later like 5 -10 laps into the stint and then drops once tyre wear kicks in.
Halo not as bad as we thought

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diffuser wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 05:53
Nikosar wrote:
19 Mar 2025, 22:10
Zak Brown claims Max Verstappen will leave Red Bull and join Mercedes

The Telegraph. "Oh I think he’ll leave at the end of this year. Most likely to Merc [Mercedes]. There’s been talk of Aston Martin, too, with Adrian Newey joining. But as great as Adrian is – and he’s the greatest ever – you need a whole team around you."

If I was betting, I’d bet on Merc. In the last 10 years, they’ve won the championship seven or eight times. Last year they won five races (editor: Mercedes won four). They have stability. We know Toto likes him. And I think we all feel HPP [Mercedes High Performance Powertrains] is best-equipped on the power unit side heading into the new engine regulations next year."

Is this Zak saying Mercedes PU will be superior to Honda ? or Zak just using the Marko style psycho pressure on Horner.
He is just saying that he made the right decision in staying with Merc powertrains...you expected him to say he made a mistake?
Last months we saw increased rumours liking Max to Aston. Last week there were rumours of Zak reaching out to Max’s management to inquire about him. I expect maybe a race between Aston ( after Alonso departure or even for 2026 if they will have a chance to sing Max) Mercedes and McLaren to sign max.