2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[ispano6]

Oh Yeah, so it was even 100% impossible, they still HAD to use a different compound.

No, it was definitely possible.
They went SOFT -> SOFT -> MEDIUM? If so, shouldn't they have gone SOFT -> MEDIUM? That's the point I want to make. Some people here seemed to think Gasly was on a ONE stopper, which they are mistaken. Had Gasly's second set been mediums, he might have somehow finished in front of or behind Vettel. Gasly is good with tires and doing long stints and had he been on the mediums 2nd stint he probably wouldn't have dropped back so much. Gasly also had a very long pit stop with the left rear causing issues. 39 laps on the soft tire(2 stints 10 and 29 laps respectively) and 17 (only really 15 laps racing) on the mediums. I suppose one rationale is that they were using Gasly to better learn/understand the soft tires.

[SmallSoldier]

Good for Honda, impressive top speed for Albon. Power seems to be there. We need setup and aero now

What that shows is that power isn’t everything when it comes down to Speed Traps, proven by how low both Haas cars are in the list with what is suspected to be the best Engine in the grid today.


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[Marti_EF3]

Good for Honda, impressive top speed for Albon. Power seems to be there. We need setup and aero now

https://i.ibb.co/LZQq5D3/20190401-214203.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/0sVsFms/20190401-214239.jpg

What that shows is that power isn’t everything when it comes down to Speed Traps, proven by how low both Haas cars are in the list with what is suspected to be the best Engine in the grid today.


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Magnussen and Verstappen were most of the race without DRS, and they are pretty equal on speed... And yes, obviously aero and traction have a lot with speed traps. I'm only showing that Honda isn't that bad like some people say

[NL_Fer]

If the rear aero is the cruelpit. They just didn’t get is right with a new powerunit, which has a different size and shape. Can we really blame them?

[ispano6]

Good for Honda, impressive top speed for Albon. Power seems to be there. We need setup and aero now

...proven by how low both Haas cars are in the list with what is suspected to be the best Engine in the grid today.


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Funny because the results don't really show that now does it? So far it seems the best engines are the reliable ones.

[Marti_EF3]

Race pace



Race pace by Stints

[ispano6]

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Thanks for this data, shows what I thought - Gasly's pace was good and he should have been on the mediums for the 2nd stint, perhaps with a slightly longer first stint.

[Marti_EF3]

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Thanks for this data, shows what I thought - Gasly's pace was good and he should have been on the mediums for the 2nd stint, perhaps with a slightly longer first stint.

Yes, last stint with Mediums was at a decent pace. But his pace with the softs was a disaster (maybe due being surrounded with cars and fighting)

[ispano6]

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Thanks for this data, shows what I thought - Gasly's pace was good and he should have been on the mediums for the 2nd stint, perhaps with a slightly longer first stint.

Yes, last stint with Mediums was at a decent pace. But his pace with the softs was a disaster (maybe due being surrounded with cars and fighting)

True, he was battling with Norris switching places so it was definitely overspent seeing that it was a used soft from the start. Pace wise he was nose to tail up until his pit stop and he was pacing faster than Magnussen's Haas. He showed guts against the Toro Rosso drivers and once the chassis finds its feet and drivers become one with the car RB15 should be able to take 4th and 5th every race and be ready for opportune podiums and even wins. Let's see if RB15 grows in length at the 5th race or if it will be kept short until after Monaco, unless it's possible to adjust wheelbase and rake from track to track. Surely not an easy feat especially taking into account gearbox drive ratio but perhaps accommodated by mapping and deployment. Some good comments about the wheels here, I expect some new designs in the pipeline as well as rear wing end-plates with winglets and channels. The RB15's rear wing looks flat and under-developed even compared to the STR14's so it doesn't come as a surprise that the rear is unstable.

[SmallSoldier]

Thanks for this data, shows what I thought - Gasly's pace was good and he should have been on the mediums for the 2nd stint, perhaps with a slightly longer first stint.

Yes, last stint with Mediums was at a decent pace. But his pace with the softs was a disaster (maybe due being surrounded with cars and fighting)

True, he was battling with Norris switching places so it was definitely overspent seeing that it was a used soft from the start. Pace wise he was nose to tail up until his pit stop and he was pacing faster than Magnussen's Haas. He showed guts against the Toro Rosso drivers and once the chassis finds its feet and drivers become one with the car RB15 should be able to take 4th and 5th every race and be ready for opportune podiums and even wins. Let's see if RB15 grows in length at the 5th race or if it will be kept short until after Monaco, unless it's possible to adjust wheelbase and rake from track to track. Surely not an easy feat especially taking into account gearbox drive ratio but perhaps accommodated by mapping and deployment. Some good comments about the wheels here, I expect some new designs in the pipeline as well as rear wing end-plates with winglets and channels. The RB15's rear wing looks flat and under-developed even compared to the STR14's so it doesn't come as a surprise that the rear is unstable.

You mean switching places with Norris?... He was infront of Norris for 5 laps, after which Norris passed him and that’s the last time they “battled” it out... Once Norris passed Magnussen (2 laps after passing Gasly)... Their Gap was more than 3 seconds for the rest of the race


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[ispano6]

Yes, last stint with Mediums was at a decent pace. But his pace with the softs was a disaster (maybe due being surrounded with cars and fighting)

True, he was battling with Norris switching places so it was definitely overspent seeing that it was a used soft from the start. Pace wise he was nose to tail up until his pit stop and he was pacing faster than Magnussen's Haas. He showed guts against the Toro Rosso drivers and once the chassis finds its feet and drivers become one with the car RB15 should be able to take 4th and 5th every race and be ready for opportune podiums and even wins. Let's see if RB15 grows in length at the 5th race or if it will be kept short until after Monaco, unless it's possible to adjust wheelbase and rake from track to track. Surely not an easy feat especially taking into account gearbox drive ratio but perhaps accommodated by mapping and deployment. Some good comments about the wheels here, I expect some new designs in the pipeline as well as rear wing end-plates with winglets and channels. The RB15's rear wing looks flat and under-developed even compared to the STR14's so it doesn't come as a surprise that the rear is unstable.

You mean switching places with Norris?... He was infront of Norris for 5 laps, after which Norris passed him and that’s the last time they “battled” it out... Once Norris passed Magnussen (2 laps after passing Gasly)... Their Gap was more than 3 seconds for the rest of the race


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Yes we were talking about the first stint where Gasly had terrible times, which was the first 10laps. So for half of that time Gasly was ahead, battling it out back and forth as their names interchanged on screen from corner to corner. That is what I mean by switching places and the reasons for the bad times and "overspent" tire degradation.

[ispano6]

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/917015/1/ ... safety-car

Based on Horners and driver comments from Leclerc, Hamilton, Gasly, Raikkonen, Verstappen, and Norris it seems clear Ferrari/Alfa/McLaren aero were less affected by the strong winds compared to MB/RB.

[Capharol]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... ontent=www

“I think it’s a tricky car at the moment,” said Horner. “Our operating window looks quite narrow and Max has coped with that extremely well.

"I think it’s been harder for Pierre. That will come I’m sure.”

Horner said that the Bahrain Grand Prix weekend, where Red Bull’s drivers never found themselves with a completely comfortable set-up, has highlighted where the team needs to improve – and given some indicators of what needs to be worked on at this week’s post-race test.

[HPD]

"It was rainy, but we did a good number of laps to learn what went wrong this weekend," the Red Bull driver told Motorsport.com.

"Moreover, you do not have many days to get to know the car better during the season. A day like this is certainly valuable".

"Of course we want to improve all areas, but last weekend we especially missed the grip on the back. So we worked on that today."

When asked about his expectations(china), he comes with a clear answer. "Well, it can't be much worse there than what we showed here. That's how we made some mistakes with the adjustment this weekend."

"The gap was then also twenty seconds compared to Valtteri [Bottas], but that was because I couldn't really push in the race and was often stuck behind other cars."

"I think we can do much better than what we have shown so far."

The displacement of the name 'Schumacher' also played no role in this. "No, I just finished my own program. So that was not my intention. I fully focus on the things that we have to do ourselves."

https://nl.motorsport.com/f1/news/react ... n/4363687/

[Marti_EF3]

Hope they sort out how to setup and balance the car to get 100% of the tires. 2 days of testing just before that mess, and on the same track (not same conditions), came at the best moment possible. Hopefully on China it will be better, and if not battling with the front 2 directly, to be clearly ahead of the midfield and wait something to happen in front. It's not what RBR is/and want, but until Spain we need to minimize damage and get the most points possible.