McLaren MCL34

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M840TR wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 18:31
diffuser wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 02:57
ThePapayaJaguar wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 02:25


Yeah, kinda. Mercedes and Red Bull also have mirrors like that.
Ferrari were the first to do that. Creates vortexes and reduces drag.
I'm not sure they reduce drag at all; if anything it adds onto it. The primary purpose is to create downwash towards the diffuser. Ferrari likely dropped it because they introduced a different mechanism that uses the cooling vent on the halo mounting and the mirror's support structure to achieve somewhat the same effect.

I beg to differ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLVDpfcrDg

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I think this twin channel on the raised outer sections of the tea tray is part of the floor update, before was just a raised section
Nah actually not
would be nice with diffuser pics also
That they run these meassure equips could indicate further tweaks forward on the car but lets see
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It seems that Mclaren won’t be running the “spoon” shaped Rear Wing that they used at the beginning of the season in Canada

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Well, at least we know why the new rear brake tins/winglets - must be to work with the new floor treatment in front of the rear wheel.

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diffuser wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 19:09
M840TR wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 18:31
diffuser wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 02:57


Ferrari were the first to do that. Creates vortexes and reduces drag.
I'm not sure they reduce drag at all; if anything it adds onto it. The primary purpose is to create downwash towards the diffuser. Ferrari likely dropped it because they introduced a different mechanism that uses the cooling vent on the halo mounting and the mirror's support structure to achieve somewhat the same effect.

I beg to differ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLVDpfcrDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLVDpfcrDg
I understand your position but Autosport isn’t exactly very reliable in terms of technical accuracy like many others in f1 journalism bar few. Looking at the structure gives us the best idea of the intended flow treatment. In this case, the mirror structure itself remains the same however there’s a downwards shaped winglet on top which can only serve to create downwash in harmony with the new mounting structure. This sidepod downwash then ends up in the diffuser. Just like the vortex generators on Mcl33/32.

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SmallSoldier wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 20:57
It seems that Mclaren won’t be running the “spoon” shaped Rear Wing that they used at the beginning of the season in Canada

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Probably have the other version on the second car. Back-to-back testing.

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M840TR wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 21:38
SmallSoldier wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 20:57
It seems that Mclaren won’t be running the “spoon” shaped Rear Wing that they used at the beginning of the season in Canada

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Probably have the other version on the second car. Back-to-back testing.
Hadn't they stopped using the spoon shaped one since the Spain upgrades?

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martinbeiker wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 22:24
M840TR wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 21:38
SmallSoldier wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 20:57
It seems that Mclaren won’t be running the “spoon” shaped Rear Wing that they used at the beginning of the season in Canada

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201906 ... c889e6.jpg


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Probably have the other version on the second car. Back-to-back testing.
Hadn't they stopped using the spoon shaped one since the Spain upgrades?
Yes, they had a new higher downforce rear wing in Spain. But one would expect them to revert to the spoon shaped lower downforce spec on a track like Montreal. But like has been mentioned, could be on one car, so they can run back to back.
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No updates to the bargeboards?
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I guess not just yet, there were changes to the car, but I think they're subtle tweaks.
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There seems to be an update on the bargeboard area... Hard to tell with the angle of the picture


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M840TR wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 21:37
diffuser wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 19:09
M840TR wrote:
06 Jun 2019, 18:31


I'm not sure they reduce drag at all; if anything it adds onto it. The primary purpose is to create downwash towards the diffuser. Ferrari likely dropped it because they introduced a different mechanism that uses the cooling vent on the halo mounting and the mirror's support structure to achieve somewhat the same effect.

I beg to differ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLVDpfcrDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLVDpfcrDg
I understand your position but Autosport isn’t exactly very reliable in terms of technical accuracy like many others in f1 journalism bar few. Looking at the structure gives us the best idea of the intended flow treatment. In this case, the mirror structure itself remains the same however there’s a downwards shaped winglet on top which can only serve to create downwash in harmony with the new mounting structure. This sidepod downwash then ends up in the diffuser. Just like the vortex generators on Mcl33/32.
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