BTW why did Verstappen crash out so early lol?
Pretty bizarre to watch. I'm struggling to recall the last time he crashed out like that.
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They had software issue so energy recovery system locked the rear wheels. Wache said easy fix.
Because he is washed and already feels Hadjar pressure. Hadjar was faster already in *FP3, Max tried to hard to match that and crashed right away just like Checo in 2023. Isn’t that obvious? On a serious note, am I the only one who felt disappointment in Sky F1 pundits voices the moment they could find out it was technical rather than drivers mistake?
The active aero takes a lot away when it comes to the "setup choice" with these cars. They might have track specific wings, but because they go down when it matters, DF levels should make little difference except in the corners. We discussed it a bit during testing as well, and there were speculations that RedBull might have chosen to go for a car concept that is inherently way less draggy because it plays well with these regulations.avantman wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 10:17You cannot say that it is more efficient either, let alone much more efficient. All you can say it looks less draggy, probably by [setup] choice which is not at all the same as more efficient, which is about drag to DF ratio.Emag wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 10:13No you can't because if you compare it to Mercedes themselves it looks almost as bad but from the other direction.avantman wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 10:12So, do you want to say that RBPT is apparently even better than Mercedes PU and is the outright best ?
Let’s be serious, we cannot take anything away from these graphs, we have always been outsiders looking at these homemade telemetry overlays, now we became complete outsiders. Waste of time.
All you can say from this graph is that RedBull has a much more efficient car than McLaren.
I don't necessarily trust the original source. But interesting.AR3-GP wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 10:22They had software issue so energy recovery system locked the rear wheels. Wache said easy fix.
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That's indeed true for ex teammates but now Max is also facing a newer challenge. He cannot make the difference like before in the corners like the quick drivers did. Has to find something new. Time will tell what that is.avantman wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 10:22Because he is washed and already feels Hadjar pressure. Hadjar was faster already in Q3, Max tried to hard to match that and crashed right away just like Checo in 2023. Isn’t that obvious? On a serious note, am I the only one who felt disappointment in Sky F1 pundits voices the moment they could find out it was technical rather than drivers mistake?
What I am saying is you can take two cars with the same engine and get vastly different impressions about the quality of that engine. That is because in this new formula the chassis is crucial for how you manage your energy, and that determines how much deployment you have. 8 tenths gap is not a Mercedes engine phenomenon, it's a Mercedes chassis + engine phenomenon. If it were just an engine thing McLaren would be second easily, and Alpine and Williams would be where VCARB is.avantman wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 10:12So, do you want to say that RBPT is apparently even better than Mercedes PU and is the outright best ?
Let’s be serious, we cannot take anything away from these graphs, we have always been outsiders looking at these homemade telemetry overlays, now we became complete outsiders. Waste of time.
Even insiders do not understand much atm, listen to what Hamilton said post qualifying
That's literally what it means to have bad efficiency but okay.avantman wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 10:31Nothing has been removed between t8 and T9 today, the idea has been abandoned as far As I know. The rest of the bodywork produces a lot of if not the most of drag, mot just the wings. The difference between this years active aero and last year’s DRS is only the front wing which is itself far less draggy component than any rear wing.
It’s obvious m Karen has more downforce. It’s obvious they have more drag in this current configuration. That's it.
I felt the same. Ant Davidson sounded dejected while relaying this info to Croft, and he sounded deflated in response. They lost an opportunity for "is he losing the plot" / "has he finally had enough with these cars" stories that would have occupied the next week before chinaavantman wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 10:22Because he is washed and already feels Hadjar pressure. Hadjar was faster already in *FP3, Max tried to hard to match that and crashed right away just like Checo in 2023. Isn’t that obvious? On a serious note, am I the only one who felt disappointment in Sky F1 pundits voices the moment they could find out it was technical rather than drivers mistake?
I don't think it's depressing. I see a lot of reasons for optimism (lol). It's not always about winning, but also seeing that the team is building back up again.
Back of the grid Verstappen may be FOM's saving grace for the debut race of these regs.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 10:57Honestly this is a great result for Red Bull. With Max it would probably be second row lockout on the debut of their new PU. I think most of the negativity is because the gap looks big and because Verstappen crashed out.
I expect Max to be a menace tomorrow, he will school most of the drivers because he will skip recharging and then defend against them in following corners. Should be easier than in previous years, there is always opportunity to do a big power difference. You should enjoy it.