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Jersey Tom wrote:First of all, you and I as outside observers have no knowledge of whether or not this is the case. You say this because the pieces they've bolted onto the car aren't crazy looking? Ridiculous. We don't know what they've done with their powertrain, details of suspension topology and tune, race craft, etc.WillN wrote:Yes, the car has improved slightly in areas, yet no imaginative or initiative designs have been brought to the car.
Furthermore, you don't need wildly new / fanciful piece part designs to be successful. You need good, successful engineering work. Sometimes that's methodical and subtle. They already have a team which has been a title contender all season. To throw caution to the wind and go bananas on some "out there" deviations on design is foolish IMO.
How do you know they didn't try? That's a ridiculous assertion especially considering they've introduced different parts that we can see. Not to mention things we can't.diffuser wrote:
I agree with you but ..... they needed something to improve their qualifying and didn't even try.
I give Pat Fry a ton of credit this year. I think it's no coincidence that Ferrari's pit work blossomed while McLaren's was --- earlier this year. The same is true of Ferrari's overall race strategy, one that's maximized the hell out of nearly every available scoring opportunity. That's exactly why he was brought to the team.WillN wrote:[...]
I get the impression when seeing Pat Fry that he lacks passion and he doesn't seem to have the command of other team principles.
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Massa is a much better driver than his record over the last couple of years indicates. He just needs a stable car. Even though the F2012 hasn't been superlative over the last couple of months, it's been consistent, and that's given Massa the opportunity to adapt.diffuser wrote:[...]
I can't understand how Alonso is now slower than Massa either. Alsonso usually always goes with a little more downforce setup. I'm at a lose to explain anything or understand. I'veread through all the after quali interviews... Ferrari aren't offering up any either.
Indeed, well said Moonwalker (Reference to your avatar).bhallg2k wrote:Job titles aside, I think Adrian Newey's role at Red Bull is bit more analogous to Nicholas Tombazis' role as Chief Designer than it is to Pat Fry's role as "Chassis Director," whatever that is. Moreover, unless we're talking about John Barnard, Colin Chapman, or Rory Byrne, who in F1 has ever compared favorably to Adrian Newey? That said, I think even Adrian Newey would struggle with Ferrari's shitty wind tunnel.
Let's put it another way. Red Bull Racing is "supplied" by Red Bull Technology, a company that sits outside the purview of the FIA (and the RRA) and employs Adrian Newey (and Giorgio Ascanelli) to "supply" solutions to Red Bull Racing. Scuderia Ferrari, on the other hand, is supplied by Scuderia Ferrari, a company whose biggest strengths have been systematically diminished through an engine freeze and a testing ban. Yet, despite those inequities, Ferrari's lead driver is only 13 points behind the lead for the World Championship with one race left.
I don't know about you, but I think asking for more is a bit greedy.
Yea Garageristas, everyone except Ferrari lol. and yes it was a joke. You need to work on that bit, thought it was self-explanatory with the smiley and everything.raymondu999 wrote:Garageristas? Which crazy exhaust? You mean the McLaren/Lotus/Mercedes/Ferrari style love handles?
It´s a term that was used by the old man Enzo Ferrari when he described teams like Lotus.raymondu999 wrote:I've never seen the term Garageristas used anywhere before - hence my confusion.
Crazy exhausts... the flying squirrel?