Silly Season 2016/2017

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Sniffit wrote: I really don't understand the Nasr hype, I think he has proven himself to be pretty mediocre.
Do not underestimate the South American/Brazilian market. Like Kvyat, it is not only the money the driver brings, but who is a good marketing platform for all the sponsors on your car.
Jolle wrote: I think with Nasr you see the same kind of thing as with Kvyat and in a lesser extent with Vettel. If current drivers feel confident and "in tune" with the team and car there is very little between them, the difference between team mates would be general within a tenth to two. The moment they are put out of their sweet spot, they loose time, more then their abilities would suggest.
No idea why you put any names here. Especially the top drivers are very picky, not only Vettel, but also Ham or even Alo.
Jolle wrote:I think in general you can say that there is more speed difference between the different cars then between the drivers, so it shouldn't accurately wouldn't make much difference who you would put in your car....
True. 2 or 3 tenth in Q is a usual difference.
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basti313 wrote:
Sniffit wrote: I really don't understand the Nasr hype, I think he has proven himself to be pretty mediocre.
Do not underestimate the South American/Brazilian market. Like Kvyat, it is not only the money the driver brings, but who is a good marketing platform for all the sponsors on your car.
Sorry if I was unclear, from a business POV Nasr is a gold mine. But he's often lauded on here like the next Senna or hell even the next Verstappen and I simply can't see it.

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Definately no Senna. Far from it. Probably not even a 'Massa'. It remains to be seen if he is a decent racer, but Sauber might be one of the worst teams to be in in this time in F1 to have a proper view and judgement. Haven't written him off yet.

In any case, I think there is little doubt he'll be at the F1 field next year. There is really no way that Bernie will not make sure there will be a Brazilian on the grid next year. Whether that still is with Sauber? I don't know, something tells me that he won't be at sauber next year and that means Banco do Brazil will go with him. I think Renault or Force India are very potential candidates.
There are some rumours about sabotage to prevent him move to F.I. but i don't think that's the case. If it turns out it is, then BdB and Nasr will sue the living daylights out of them and it's definately adios amigos.

Also, It's said Magnussen has a contract ready for 2 years at Haas. I do see that possibility. Haas is not dependant on big sponsor deals, the only potential influence would be losing discount at Ferrari by not having a Ferrari-liased driver in there, but I really am doubtfull Ferrari will hold Guiterrez very high. I only see Guiterrez as a Carlos Slim lifeline above anything, untill perhaps they'll have Perez back.
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Brawn is Back! .....er, maybe.

Fingers crossed!

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Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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Can't we all? F1 teams are hungry for sponsorship money and to go great lenghs to get it.

Meanwhile Nasr is getting his butt kicked by Ericsson.

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Ocon is still the hottest young driver available on the grid, some say he is coming with $ 3 million discount from Mercs engine, plus he is backing himself with strong performance by displaying strong data from test which he conducted with SFI & Renault Lotus last year.

Renault and SFI had always setup their eyes on him.

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I see Ocon to SFI with a Mercedes reduction and debt write off. Nasr to Renault as Banco Do Brazil and Renault do business in Brazil and i think Renault need a capable but not pasty or difficult second driver for Hulkenberg, Nasr will bring €25m to Renault next year. I see Palmer and his €20m budget at Manor alongside Wherlien (Mercedes giving them a reduction on their bill) or Rossi (Bringing an estimated €18m) and Magnussen at Haas alongside Grosjean. Stroll will be announced at Williams for a €35m a season ride with his dads businesses getting lots of exposure on the side of the Williams FW40 next year. At Sauber Guiteriez will accompany Ericsson with both bringing the team a €50m budget with Ericsson bringing the larger three-fifths share.

I see only two new drivers in F1 next year in Stroll and Vandoorne next year.

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NASR getting Renault seat rumors very intensifying................

:arrow: :arrow: :| :o

Lets hope it's SAi maybe :mrgreen: or anyone else.
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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Banco do Brazil is going to give NASR a new Renault Clio? :D

To be honest, i expected him at Force India over Renault. Let's see what happens with Bottas still. Bottas > Renault = Nasr @ Williams surely.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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Manoah2u wrote:Banco do Brazil is going to give NASR a new Renault Clio? :D
Movistar paying for Sainz or bank paying for Nasr - perfectly logical alternatives. Let's not pretend that Renault's reasons for interest in them are any different.

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You don't recognise a joke when you see one?
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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Wow! 1 day without Internet and when I come back, a lot of people talking about Nasr going to Renault next year.

Which source said that? Where these rumors are coming from?

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Felipe Nasr is the favorite for the seat at Force India. He has more chances of getting the seat than Esteban Ocon. According to the Brazilian press, Force India will decide on Thursday in a meeting at the team headquarters in Silverstone.

The most likely scenario is Nasr sign with Force India. Nasr going to Renault? Only if Eddie Jordan has obtained inside information. And this scenario would only be possible if Renault has offered a proposal for Nasr.

I know Eddie Jordan hit almost all of his predictions, but I found it strange Nasr going to Renault. Besides him, another source said about it?