MotoGP 2013

[turbof1]

Much more transparent indeed. Bridgestone has closer ties to the organisation and can get things done. Pirelli has to get all the teams and the fia on the same page to push through changes.

The biggest issue is that bridgestone did not take a surface imprint of the new surface. It only sent some inexperienced engineer over to have a look. Concerning the approach towards the australian event, they were sluggish, even lazy. Overall bridgestone did a very good job over the years, but on the other hand they can't afford the same mistakes as pirelli makes in F1. If pirelli instead was in motogp and made the same mistakes as in f1, the consequences would have been disastrous. A delaminating tyre will 100% guaranteed end in a crash in motogp, and chunks of the exploding tyre will very probably hit the rider behind. And when somebody dies from that, pirelli would still have the nerve to blame the rider.

[SectorOne]

Holy sh*t did anyone see how Espargaro bailed out of the bike?
I had to change pants after that and i wasn´t even on the bike.

For people who did not watch the race, throttle got stuck so he´s literally at top speed near corner entry, and just jumps of the bike.
I´m not sure if it really was a throttle locking up but they said it during the broadcast. I would have to assume it was something like that for him to simply abandon the bike at those speeds.

[turbof1]

Holy sh*t did anyone see how Espargaro bailed out of the bike?
I had to change pants after that and i wasn´t even on the bike.

Yeah he was like "no brakes? No problem, we are only a meter away from the ground *bail out* "

[JimClarkFan]

I only got to see it once, it looked like a strange crash.... would like to see it again. Scary stuff.

Hope Marquez wins the title at the next outing, I wouldn't call myself a fan of any driver (though I would love to see Rossi win a championship again) but over the course of the season I think he has been the best.

[Shrieker]

Very weird stuff has happened in Valencia before, most notably Rossi's fall and Hayden's title in 2006. It's not over, far from it. M&M will have to ride very carefuly to avoid a mishap. I have a feeling he's not yet experienced enough to do that.

[SectorOne]

Marquez just needs to keep his on the black stuff and he´s good to go.
Anything can happen though. Will be quite a feat from both guys whoever wins it.
The rookie coming in and learning as he goes, and the veteran that sometimes has perhaps squeezed out some things that you normally would not expect from an inferior bike in certain parts of the season.

[JimClarkFan]

Very weird stuff has happened in Valencia before, most notably Rossi's fall and Hayden's title in 2006. It's not over, far from it. M&M will have to ride very carefuly to avoid a mishap. I have a feeling he's not yet experienced enough to do that.

Same, I would like to see him win, I think he deserves it for he has been a sensation all season and it is much deserved, but I have a gut feeling he could crack too - I hope I am wrong, I don't like to see it ended that way.

[Huntresa]

But isnt it abit over alrdy eventho as you mention Rossi falling in 06, but there is no one besides Pedrosa and Lorenzo that can threaten for places 1, 2 and 3 so for MM he could but he wont cruise around as 3rd if he wanted cause Rossi cant get close anyways.

[JimClarkFan]

But isnt it abit over alrdy eventho as you mention Rossi falling in 06, but there is no one besides Pedrosa and Lorenzo that can threaten for places 1, 2 and 3 so for MM he could but he wont cruise around as 3rd if he wanted cause Rossi cant get close anyways.

It's a funny game though. On paper, over the course of the season, you would expect those 3 to extend out and walk with the race.

Rossi though is Rossi, and there was a race this season where he was blindingly fast.

What are peoples consensus on Rossi here? Do they think he has lost it, or do they think he can't get his machine dallied in?

[turbof1]

I personally think he doesn't have it anymore. I mean he still very good, but the likes of lorenzo and marquez have that bit extra, can push the bike harder. The only advantage rossi has from this, is that his tyres are better at the end. Commentators claim that comes from his geniosity, I personally believe it is because he is unable to drive as fast as the ones in front of him.

Assen looked like he got it again, but now it looks like a one-off.

[Huntresa]

To me Rossi looks like Schumi during his comeback eventho Rossi isnt making a comeback more then on a better bike.

What i mean is that he is still very good for being his age, but he just doesnt have that extra thing you have when your in MMs to Lorenzo/Pedrosa age span if you are really talented. His talent still shows being able to produce amazing races on occasion but most of the time just being 4th.

[JimClarkFan]

I personally think he doesn't have it anymore. I mean he still very good, but the likes of lorenzo and marquez have that bit extra, can push the bike harder. The only advantage rossi has from this, is that his tyres are better at the end. Commentators claim that comes from his geniosity, I personally believe it is because he is unable to drive as fast as the ones in front of him.

Assen looked like he got it again, but now it looks like a one-off.

To me Rossi looks like Schumi during his comeback eventho Rossi isnt making a comeback more then on a better bike.

What i mean is that he is still very good for being his age, but he just doesnt have that extra thing you have when your in MMs to Lorenzo/Pedrosa age span if you are really talented. His talent still shows being able to produce amazing races on occasion but most of the time just being 4th.

Dam, that makes me feel sad.

I do think that as you get older, and have more things around you, you get less likely to push.

My own experience with weight lifting confirms that, I used to be strong as ---, got injured, got older - now I am all about self preservation.

Shame, I want to see Rossi win again.

[turbof1]

I think we'll see him winning the odd race here and there. I also believe the switch from 800cc to 1000cc didn't do him any good.

[Powershift]

Lorenzo with 7 wins, Marquez with 6, Whoever wins(of these 2) in Valencia should be crowned champion, hopefully it is a tight and clean battle between the 2. If neither wins than Lorenzo deserves the crown more.

[JimClarkFan]

I think we'll see him winning the odd race here and there. I also believe the switch from 800cc to 1000cc didn't do him any good.

He is one of the bigger guys on the grid, I'm sure he is down on power.

I can't see where he is losing time, it must be the corners, but where... is it acceleration out of it, commitment mid corner or entry into the corner on brakes.