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bidong wrote:Bring back one hour. 12 timed laps for each driver. No Q1, 2, 3 sessions. Just straight up drive as fast as you can.
They've done this. Everyone just wait in the garage for 55mins and then do one flying lap.
Not the engineer at Force India

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That old format was 12 laps, not 12 timed laps. Let's not ever go back to that.

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I like that Q3 has been reduced to 8 drivers.
And that's the only thing i like about it.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35722163
Looks like the drivers aren't happy with the changes either. At least Alonso and Hamilton aren't impressed anyway...
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Something I've thought about is that you have two different types of drivers.
The first can go out and just kill it first lap outta the box.
The second goes out and builds his speed and confidence over a number of laps.
I think the new format plays to the hands of the latter type.
If I were the first type, which I believe Lewis and Fernando are I think I wouldn't like it either.
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I am trying to understanding, what does it really change? If the intent is to bring some instability for the starting grid, they really are looking like idiots. The faster cars like Mercedes, Ferrari and to some extent Williams and Red Bulls will go there in Q1, bolts a fast lap and then rest in garage. Any doubts on that? The Toro Rossos, FIs, Saubers and the tail enders aren't going to beat the leaders' time. Same would happen throughout Q2 and Q3. What really is going to change? The only convenience it takes away is when leaders make mistake in the first part of each session to bolt the best possible time. They did mistakes until now, with clear understanding that they have time to bolt one more. With tight framework, they will do less mistakes.

Instead of addressing real issues, the FIA is being idiots with these useless ideas.

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There's an article on autosport entitled something like 'f1 addressing questions nobody's asking '. I haven't actually read it but the title says it all.

As you say, won't do anything good but also pretty certain it will detract from top 10 - two cars (likely Mercedes) trundling round all on their own at the end... Great.

Nothing wrong with qualifying as it is; there's something wrong with the tyres; something wrong with the sound of the engines; something wrong with the laptimes; but yeah, let's change quali, that'll work...

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so any news about tyre- and fuel regs for the new qualifying?
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f1316 wrote:There's an article on autosport entitled something like 'f1 addressing questions nobody's asking '. I haven't actually read it but the title says it all.
I think it's Bernie worrying about TV rights holders. They don't like having minutes at a time with no cars on track; the new system means there are cars out there for every available minute.

It's all about what the media and FOM perceive to be "exciting". Nobody asked the question because they already knew "the answer". #-o
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I appreciate I sound ignorant here, but I haven't even bothered to read the proposals further than the general outline because WHATS THE POINT. No one has an issue with qualifying, it works and it works really well. Where did this all even come from?!

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I like the new format, there's nothing wrong with a bit of change.
God knows we've had plenty already :)

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Just_a_fan wrote:
f1316 wrote:There's an article on autosport entitled something like 'f1 addressing questions nobody's asking '. I haven't actually read it but the title says it all.
I think it's Bernie worrying about TV rights holders. They don't like having minutes at a time with no cars on track; the new system means there are cars out there for every available minute.

It's all about what the media and FOM perceive to be "exciting". Nobody asked the question because they already knew "the answer". #-o
That's my take on the situation, too.
Honda!

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Question, under the now 'approved' system, do laps underway count when the cutting begins, or only completed laps? At 7 minutes into the session, do drivers on a flying lap get to complete the lap and have it count? Or is the cut instantaneous based on completed laps?

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New format sounds awesome tbh. Entire grid scraping to find some clean air just to get under before the clock goes. I think its going to be lovely!