2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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JPBD1990 wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 07:58
dialtone wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 23:46
Couple more graph just for giggles, this is FP1 Bahrain 2022 from LEC vs today, FP1 time was 1s slower than today:
https://i.imgur.com/tzFtlal.jpeg

This is FP2 vs today, FP2 time was 1.2s faster than today:
https://i.imgur.com/EFwHjCy.jpeg

Couple of notes:
* SF-23 in some corners brakes a LOT later than F1-75, in some cases 20+m later according to this data (comp laps are 1s faster and 1s slower but it's still later braking from higher speed).
* Most corners are rounder, taken less aggressively and LEC has to be (or just is) slower with the throttle.
* Despite the slower corner speed, SF-23 seems to catch up F1-75 speed before the end of the straight at worst, by mid straight at best.
* Upshifts are slower in SF-23 so either they lenghtened their ratios, IMHO unlikely looking the graphs against VER, or they could push the car more there.

I think the car looks genuinely improved from last year except for the balance, which at the moment has oversteer both in slow speed and high speed corners while RBR seems to only oversteer in exit of slow speed corners.

Incredible to me is that Ferrari has the mid-low downforce wing on for this test, while they ran a mid-high spec for the race last year - so the fact that they’re able to break later, and even maintain a higher minimum apex speed in several corners, is very impressive. Certainly suggests strong downforce and also improved mechanical grip.
Minimum tire pressure has been lowered in addition to Pirelli bringing a better front tire. This will have a considerable effect on lap time.
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According to Charles, data matches with sim. Yesterday they were corellating data with sim, no setup work.

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F1NAC wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 10:44
According to Charles, data matches with sim. Yesterday they were corellating data with sim, no setup work.
That gives me hope. If those rumours about minimum 1sec (1.1-1.2s) per lap faster than F1-75 then we can fight on the front row..

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This car is such a beauty... can´t wait to see its performance.

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From AMUS

The competition claims to have observed that the red car takes its tires harder. The wear on the SF-23 was unusually high. The Red Bull, on the other hand, treats the Pirellis with care. How could it be otherwise if a car is lying like on rails?

The engine could be Ferrari's Joker. Maranello wants to have secured reliability over the winter. The results from the test bench are positive. If this is confirmed on the racetrack, Ferrari can drive its power unit back to the maximum.

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Venturiation wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 13:52
From AMUS

The competition claims to have observed that the red car takes its tires harder. The wear on the SF-23 was unusually high. The Red Bull, on the other hand, treats the Pirellis with care. How could it be otherwise if a car is lying like on rails?

The engine could be Ferrari's Joker. Maranello wants to have secured reliability over the winter. The results from the test bench are positive. If this is confirmed on the racetrack, Ferrari can drive its power unit back to the maximum.
This statement is about yesterday, just to add some context.

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Leclerc onboard was awful. So much understeer...

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Sainz: "Our priority is to improve the race pace. We are focusing on that. The SF-23 is not a slow car but we don't know how fast we are compared to Red Bull and Mercedes."

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Xyz22 wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 13:56
Venturiation wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 13:52
From AMUS

The competition claims to have observed that the red car takes its tires harder. The wear on the SF-23 was unusually high. The Red Bull, on the other hand, treats the Pirellis with care. How could it be otherwise if a car is lying like on rails?

The engine could be Ferrari's Joker. Maranello wants to have secured reliability over the winter. The results from the test bench are positive. If this is confirmed on the racetrack, Ferrari can drive its power unit back to the maximum.
This statement is about yesterday, just to add some context.
Bizarre observation to make when Ferrari was not testing setup...

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Still hearing the tyre degradation is high. With this no matter how many poles Leclerc scores all Max has to do is keep within the 2 Sec of him and wait for his tyres to fall off. It's so simple.

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Shal_Leg16 wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 16:55
Still hearing the tyre degradation is high. With this no matter how many poles Leclerc scores all Max has to do is keep within the 2 Sec of him and wait for his tyres to fall off. It's so simple.
The tire deg is likely high because the rear wing is too small.

Car is oversteering. Sliding all over. A bigger rear wing will aid this.
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Spoutnik wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 17:01
Rip

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AR3-GP wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 16:58
Shal_Leg16 wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 16:55
Still hearing the tyre degradation is high. With this no matter how many poles Leclerc scores all Max has to do is keep within the 2 Sec of him and wait for his tyres to fall off. It's so simple.
The tire deg is likely high because the rear wing is too small.

Car is oversteering. Sliding all over. A bigger rear wing will aid this.
I wonder what is their objective using this medium load rear wing
To find the set-up where the floor is functioning on its best, to test the floor performance with smaller impact of the wings.
Insisting on this they have something in mind for sure.

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Car has looked pretty good today IMO.

The approach to this weekend seems logical.

Won’t know much until FP2 relative to the rest.