Flexiwings 2024

[morefirejules08]

When Mercedes complain about flexible wings every team on the grid has cameras and dots applied to their rear wings, when Redbull complains it’s only “selected” teams .
The FIA really doesn’t help themselves over accusations of favouritism.

[TimW]

When Mercedes complain about flexible wings every team on the grid has cameras and dots applied to their rear wings, when Redbull complains it’s only “selected” teams .
The FIA really doesn’t help themselves over accusations of favouritism.

They have done so before, IIRC, on the rear wing flexing. But in their selection they included both the suspected team(s) and the complaining team itself, so no favouritism. I expect the same now.

[Mosin123]

Like such a statement wouldnt be the same for all the teams no?

Just have a think who has been behind the TD's over the last 3/4 years....

Red Bull whenever someone gets too close for comfort…

And the others that there have been? Mercedes about the floors/bouncing. Mercedes about pitstop equipment. Mercedes/RB working together to stop Ferrari's illegal engine. Thats just a few!

Was that not all but 2 teams, and all drivers that complained about bouncing? bit harsh to put it all on just Merc.

[GrizzleBoy]

Imagine mandating that F1 and teams on a whole spend what must be billions of pounds creating new concepts, manufacturing methods, driving styles, R&D, track resurfacing, iteration and reiteration of car designs, etc etc etc, so that we can get closer racing.

Only to start a crackdown on the opponents of the most dominant team as soon as it smells like there is a chance of them being challenged and where the speed delta between more cars at the front is the lowest it has been in recent memory.

It almost makes you wonder if close racing is actually the goal, or?

[Just_a_fan]

It almost makes you wonder if close racing is actually the goal, or?

It has been alleged that the FIA has required Red Bull (and Ferrari) remove some illegal parts of their cars. This coincided with Red Bull losing their lead and suddenly complaining about other teams.

Probably a conspiracy hypothesis, but this is F1 and we know how the FIA and teams love to play games.

[chrisc90]

[Quantum]

It almost makes you wonder if close racing is actually the goal, or?

It has been alleged that the FIA has required Red Bull (and Ferrari) remove some illegal parts of their cars. This coincided with Red Bull losing their lead and suddenly complaining about other teams.

Probably a conspiracy hypothesis, but this is F1 and we know how the FIA and teams love to play games.

It could also be a universal coincidence that Red Bull was the only top 6 team slower at Hungary in 2024 than in 2023.



Also in terms of form, a marked change which cannot now be dismissed as a flash in the pan.




I'm not familiar with Antonio Lobato. But he has a sizable following, some decent scoops and with credibility in the paddock. The rumour surrounding the changes the FIA asked Red Bull to make, emanated from Lobato who said he got it from 2 separate teams.

Is this just rumour, or are we seeing more examples of the FIA being closed shop for some and not others?

[Tvetovnato]

It almost makes you wonder if close racing is actually the goal, or?

It has been alleged that the FIA has required Red Bull (and Ferrari) remove some illegal parts of their cars. This coincided with Red Bull losing their lead and suddenly complaining about other teams.

Probably a conspiracy hypothesis, but this is F1 and we know how the FIA and teams love to play games.

It could also be a universal coincidence that Red Bull was the only top 6 team slower at Hungary in 2024 than in 2023.

https://twitter.com/FDataAnalysis/statu ... 0340617231

Also in terms of form, a marked change which cannot now be dismissed as a flash in the pan.

https://twitter.com/F1BigData/status/18 ... 3316925543


I'm not familiar with Antonio Lobato. But he has a sizable following, some decent scoops and with credibility in the paddock. The rumour surrounding the changes the FIA asked Red Bull to make, emanated from Lobato who said he got it from 2 separate teams.
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1_News/stat ... 5004024838
Is this just rumour, or are we seeing more examples of the FIA being closed shop for some and not others?

Verstappen was stuck for a long time behind Hamilton, so he could hardly show his true pace for much of the race.

[Quantum]

It has been alleged that the FIA has required Red Bull (and Ferrari) remove some illegal parts of their cars. This coincided with Red Bull losing their lead and suddenly complaining about other teams.

Probably a conspiracy hypothesis, but this is F1 and we know how the FIA and teams love to play games.

It could also be a universal coincidence that Red Bull was the only top 6 team slower at Hungary in 2024 than in 2023.

https://twitter.com/FDataAnalysis/statu ... 0340617231

Also in terms of form, a marked change which cannot now be dismissed as a flash in the pan.

https://twitter.com/F1BigData/status/18 ... 3316925543


I'm not familiar with Antonio Lobato. But he has a sizable following, some decent scoops and with credibility in the paddock. The rumour surrounding the changes the FIA asked Red Bull to make, emanated from Lobato who said he got it from 2 separate teams.
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1_News/stat ... 5004024838
Is this just rumour, or are we seeing more examples of the FIA being closed shop for some and not others?

Verstappen was stuck for a long time behind Hamilton, so he could hardly show his true pace for much of the race.

If he didn't have the pace to overtake Hamilton how was he going to overtake the McLarens?
Off-topic and pretty moot tangential there IMO

[Tvetovnato]

It could also be a universal coincidence that Red Bull was the only top 6 team slower at Hungary in 2024 than in 2023.

https://twitter.com/FDataAnalysis/statu ... 0340617231

Also in terms of form, a marked change which cannot now be dismissed as a flash in the pan.

https://twitter.com/F1BigData/status/18 ... 3316925543


I'm not familiar with Antonio Lobato. But he has a sizable following, some decent scoops and with credibility in the paddock. The rumour surrounding the changes the FIA asked Red Bull to make, emanated from Lobato who said he got it from 2 separate teams.
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1_News/stat ... 5004024838
Is this just rumour, or are we seeing more examples of the FIA being closed shop for some and not others?

Verstappen was stuck for a long time behind Hamilton, so he could hardly show his true pace for much of the race.

If he didn't have the pace to overtake Hamilton how was he going to overtake the McLarens?
Off-topic and pretty moot tangential there IMO

Well, that kind of analysis gives the impression that RB lost a lot of raw pace compared to last year, when in fact they haven’t, it was other factors influencing their ultimate pace which does not show in those stats.
And it’s not that off topic, since it was used in analysis to add an explanation to the topic in question…

[morefirejules08]

So it looks like the teams selected are McLaren, Mercedes, Aston Martin and Sauber. Of course Redbull aren’t on of the selected teams.

[chrisc90]

So it looks like the teams selected are McLaren, Mercedes, Aston Martin and Sauber. Of course Redbull aren’t on of the selected teams.

Might be a telling story….

Who got selected in Hungary?

[MV8]

So it looks like the teams selected are McLaren, Mercedes, Aston Martin and Sauber. Of course Redbull aren’t on of the selected teams.

Might be a telling story….

Who got selected in Hungary?

I guess no one because they were not monitoring the situation

[Rikhart]

Just look at the merc front wing, I think it even flexes more than the mclaren one, in Spa.

[FlYiNgIcEmAn]

So it looks like the teams selected are McLaren, Mercedes, Aston Martin and Sauber. Of course Redbull aren’t on of the selected teams.

Its Red Bull, Mclaren, Ferrari, Aston Martin and Nico Hulkenberg based on Thomas Maher on X