Realistically what feathers would Williams ruffle? Unless they are very confident in a 2014 repeat, a better approach might be to focus on securing 5th for this year and see what happens in 26 with a simple base car and leftover resources to quickly copy the leading designMansell89 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:34Nicely done from the Williams boys today and some decent points to the tally.
A solid baseline car but not sure if anyone saw Sainz interview yesterday on Sky after quali - he said they have already switched all development to 2026 because they have the base car to fight for points for most of the season.
The right move for the Williams long term for sure so good luck to them and il be interested to see whether they can ruffle any feathers next season.
They wouldn’t have moved to full wind tunnel development on the 2026 car earlier than anyone else in the field if they were just going to copy the leading design.Waz wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025, 11:29Realistically what feathers would Williams ruffle? Unless they are very confident in a 2014 repeat, a better approach might be to focus on securing 5th for this year and see what happens in 26 with a simple base car and leftover resources to quickly copy the leading designMansell89 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:34Nicely done from the Williams boys today and some decent points to the tally.
A solid baseline car but not sure if anyone saw Sainz interview yesterday on Sky after quali - he said they have already switched all development to 2026 because they have the base car to fight for points for most of the season.
The right move for the Williams long term for sure so good luck to them and il be interested to see whether they can ruffle any feathers next season.
Which is realistically a mistake. Unless a 2014 style repeat happens and the Mercedes engine is massively superior again.JPower wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025, 12:38They wouldn’t have moved to full wind tunnel development on the 2026 car earlier than anyone else in the field if they were just going to copy the leading design.Waz wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025, 11:29Realistically what feathers would Williams ruffle? Unless they are very confident in a 2014 repeat, a better approach might be to focus on securing 5th for this year and see what happens in 26 with a simple base car and leftover resources to quickly copy the leading designMansell89 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 21:34Nicely done from the Williams boys today and some decent points to the tally.
A solid baseline car but not sure if anyone saw Sainz interview yesterday on Sky after quali - he said they have already switched all development to 2026 because they have the base car to fight for points for most of the season.
The right move for the Williams long term for sure so good luck to them and il be interested to see whether they can ruffle any feathers next season.
This isn't a BMW in 2008 situation. 2026+ has been the target since Vowles came on board in 2023. He's been pretty adamant about that. Even this year's car was developed early in 2024 so they would have the entire year to focus on 2026. There was no option to further develop the current car. Any on-track success that happens this year is a bonus.Waz wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025, 14:10
Which is realistically a mistake. Unless a 2014 style repeat happens and the Mercedes engine is massively superior again.
It would be better to focus longer on this year. There may be podiums to get in the 2nd half once the front runners switch.
Ferrari and Mercedes look likely to halt 25 development soon too, which would leave them beatable later if Williams kept going.
It often seems like F1 teams are always future focused and sometimes miss out on good results in the current season
Very interesting. Anyway, Williams already had some remarkable wind tunnel facilities, didn't they? If I'm not mistaken, they had up to two wind tunnels. They probably needed a major overhaul, but it caught my attention when it seemed like they were going to disappear, etc. Bad times.JPower wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025, 15:33This isn't a BMW in 2008 situation. 2026+ has been the target since Vowles came on board in 2023. He's been pretty adamant about that. Even this year's car was developed early in 2024 so they would have the entire year to focus on 2026. There was no option to further develop the current car. Any on-track success that happens this year is a bonus.Waz wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025, 14:10
Which is realistically a mistake. Unless a 2014 style repeat happens and the Mercedes engine is massively superior again.
It would be better to focus longer on this year. There may be podiums to get in the 2nd half once the front runners switch.
Ferrari and Mercedes look likely to halt 25 development soon too, which would leave them beatable later if Williams kept going.
It often seems like F1 teams are always future focused and sometimes miss out on good results in the current season
Any off-track resources are being spent on the scheduled facilities upgrades and car development for 2026 and 2027. They have a new simulator, new buildings, and new tools coming online that are a higher priority to bring the entire organization up to par.
Haven't seen anything regarding the wind tunnels so I assume they are OK.Otromundo wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:40Very interesting. Anyway, Williams already had some remarkable wind tunnel facilities, didn't they? If I'm not mistaken, they had up to two wind tunnels. They probably needed a major overhaul, but it caught my attention when it seemed like they were going to disappear, etc. Bad times.JPower wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025, 15:33This isn't a BMW in 2008 situation. 2026+ has been the target since Vowles came on board in 2023. He's been pretty adamant about that. Even this year's car was developed early in 2024 so they would have the entire year to focus on 2026. There was no option to further develop the current car. Any on-track success that happens this year is a bonus.Waz wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025, 14:10
Which is realistically a mistake. Unless a 2014 style repeat happens and the Mercedes engine is massively superior again.
It would be better to focus longer on this year. There may be podiums to get in the 2nd half once the front runners switch.
Ferrari and Mercedes look likely to halt 25 development soon too, which would leave them beatable later if Williams kept going.
It often seems like F1 teams are always future focused and sometimes miss out on good results in the current season
Any off-track resources are being spent on the scheduled facilities upgrades and car development for 2026 and 2027. They have a new simulator, new buildings, and new tools coming online that are a higher priority to bring the entire organization up to par.
What you say sounds logical, JPower. Besides, I'm currently getting some good information about those damned modern wind tunnels. And they're a whole world of their own.
...Wow, I didn't expect that. So SAI and ALB will have to practice almost guerrilla warfare. It could be interesting. Although it's a shame they probably can't get more out of the car now... they're sooo close.