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This year is the luckiest year for AM. They got 2 points and Stroll moved to 9th place. Ham and Lec disqualified due to plank thickness.

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wiktor977 wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 09:43
Do we know what was the reason for this brake issue?
This kind of thing usually turns out to be something blocking the brake ducts. Visor tearoff, piece of carbon fibre, etc.

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it happened so quick, i assume some debris caused it. either that or some faulty part. maybe he picked up something from leclercs front wing. on an unrelated subject completely, i had a dream that ferrari got disqualified haha freaking weird af. (key twilight zone theme)

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zoroastar wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 22:43
it happened so quick, i assume some debris caused it. either that or some faulty part. maybe he picked up something from leclercs front wing. on an unrelated subject completely, i had a dream that ferrari got disqualified haha freaking weird af. (key twilight zone theme)
From reading Alonso's comments, it sounds more like an unforced error as the brakes were heating up too much from the start.

And pit stops are still terrible this year. Tied with Alpine for last.

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It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.

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collindsilva wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 05:54
It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.
Given how tight the midfield is it's more likely track and set up dependent than a firm running order, no?

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collindsilva wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 05:54
It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.
AMR best hope will be 2026 and I am not expecting to see AMR to throw more good resources at bad.
With AN onboard it better for them to focus on 2026

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CHT wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 06:23
collindsilva wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 05:54
It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.
AMR best hope will be 2026 and I am not expecting to see AMR to throw more good resources at bad.
With AN onboard it better for them to focus on 2026
Previous upgrades from AMR were all downgrades, how do you think they can develop a good 2026 car without having evaluated the new wind tunnel and simulator, this need to be done with the AMR 25.

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SealTheRealDeal wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 06:09
collindsilva wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 05:54
It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.
Given how tight the midfield is it's more likely track and set up dependent than a firm running order, no?
yeah i dont think anyone can say they are solidly behind sauber haas or alpine anyway on pure pace. racing bulls and williams have made a lot of progress over the winter, but its still hard to tell with alonso out and rain in melborne

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collindsilva wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 06:27
CHT wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 06:23
collindsilva wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 05:54
It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.
AMR best hope will be 2026 and I am not expecting to see AMR to throw more good resources at bad.
With AN onboard it better for them to focus on 2026
Previous upgrades from AMR were all downgrades, how do you think they can develop a good 2026 car without having evaluated the new wind tunnel and simulator, this need to be done with the AMR 25.
AN philosophy is that if a car as got fundamental design flaw, there is very little the team can do to make the car go quicker. For 2026, the project will start with a clean sheet with AN driving the project. which will give AMR a better chance I hope.

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CHT wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 07:43
collindsilva wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 06:27
CHT wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 06:23


AMR best hope will be 2026 and I am not expecting to see AMR to throw more good resources at bad.
With AN onboard it better for them to focus on 2026
Previous upgrades from AMR were all downgrades, how do you think they can develop a good 2026 car without having evaluated the new wind tunnel and simulator, this need to be done with the AMR 25.
AN philosophy is that if a car as got fundamental design flaw, there is very little the team can do to make the car go quicker. For 2026, the project will start with a clean sheet with AN driving the project. which will give AMR a better chance I hope.
You talking nonsense, I mean how many times had clean sheets ? Every time had a clean sheets, the Redbull, Ferrari, Mercedes can develop a good car even if at the 1st years they struggle. Of course there are exceptions, like Brawn GP, but ideas like that they copy or ban very fast .

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 11:03
CHT wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 07:43
collindsilva wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 06:27


Previous upgrades from AMR were all downgrades, how do you think they can develop a good 2026 car without having evaluated the new wind tunnel and simulator, this need to be done with the AMR 25.
AN philosophy is that if a car as got fundamental design flaw, there is very little the team can do to make the car go quicker. For 2026, the project will start with a clean sheet with AN driving the project. which will give AMR a better chance I hope.
You talking nonsense, I mean how many times had clean sheets ? Every time had a clean sheets, the Redbull, Ferrari, Mercedes can develop a good car even if at the 1st years they struggle. Of course there are exceptions, like Brawn GP, but ideas like that they copy or ban very fast .
AMR has been borrowing Engine, suspension, gearbox and many other components from Merc, in 2026 they need to either outsource or manufacture in house. Engine by Honda consider they have made remarkable progress and leading, Chassis and other aero components Inhouse design and built AN has done fantastic job and its class of field However for suspension and Gearbox, that would be huge ask to be 100% reliable from day 1.
Considering AMR 25, their correlation between WindTunnel and actual OnTrack has been very bad from last 2 years, this need to be verified this year.

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diffuser wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 16:59
wiktor977 wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 09:43
Do we know what was the reason for this brake issue?
This kind of thing usually turns out to be something blocking the brake ducts. Visor tearoff, piece of carbon fibre, etc.
To be honest I don't think that was the issue in that case. It was too early in the race to be a tear off, there was a contact between two Ferraris but there was no debris laying around after that. I'm just guessing but for me that was some kind of mechanical malfunction

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 11:03
CHT wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 07:43
collindsilva wrote:
24 Mar 2025, 06:27


Previous upgrades from AMR were all downgrades, how do you think they can develop a good 2026 car without having evaluated the new wind tunnel and simulator, this need to be done with the AMR 25.
AN philosophy is that if a car as got fundamental design flaw, there is very little the team can do to make the car go quicker. For 2026, the project will start with a clean sheet with AN driving the project. which will give AMR a better chance I hope.
You talking nonsense, I mean how many times had clean sheets ? Every time had a clean sheets, the Redbull, Ferrari, Mercedes can develop a good car even if at the 1st years they struggle. Of course there are exceptions, like Brawn GP, but ideas like that they copy or ban very fast .
RBR was considered a joke when they started and today they are top team.

AN and RBR first break through to winning races was during the rule change and I believe LS paid big money for AN is for the 2026. Whether they willl succeed or not I am not sure.

For 2025 I am not expecting much.