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Last year was pretty slow car,they got much more windtunnel time than front runners. However this year somehow still slower than Haas. At other hand you can't pile up the windtunnel time and money. I mean you can't do nothing for 2 year and the 3th year use all your saved money and time to build WC car. F1 is a progress of developmentand understand the car etcetera, always was!
yeah i think that its track dependent and theres just not enough info yet. i think that they are better than most in the media predicted after testing. but whether theyre the 5th fastest team or the 10th, there arent a lot of points floating around on normal weekends. especially if they arent 5th. i think that theyve known how long they were going to develop the 25 car for a while and any performance, or lack thereof isnt going to change much in that department. they have upgrades already in the pipeline that are going to probably come in the next few races. possibly up until mid season and then they were always going to switch almost everything to the 26 car. theyve already said on multiple occasions that 4th 5th or 6th dont matter. if they arent fighting for wins they arent going to be happy. if working further on upgrades for the 25 car will help them in 26 then theyll do it, but anything more id say they probably arent worrying about that too much.Sedaxel wrote: ↑24 Mar 2025, 22:48I think we still have doubts about the real pace of the car. First race was in wet conditions, and Alo was being faster than the cars ahead (and much much faster than Str).
Second race... Well... Mysterious fail on the brakes. I believe that Alo would have been notably faster than Str, and he was 2 places ahead of him when retired (and I think he was even 9th when he started to decay because of brakes, being overtaken by... Occon? Don't remember who was). He would have finished, at least, 3 places ahead of Str.
So the pace is still a mystery, IMO.
The car is clearly the best in the midfield teams in terms of tyre wear, but just no pace. Again can't read too much from China it is also a bogey track like Australia. Honestly Japan it might hard to tell until after Bahrian on who is where.collindsilva wrote: ↑24 Mar 2025, 05:54It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.
Not sure on having best tyre wear, we will know by Japan, but race pace sucks.. it should be a easy fix with upgrades for better race pace...Ashwinv16 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2025, 06:50The car is clearly the best in the midfield teams in terms of tyre wear, but just no pace. Again can't read too much from China it is also a bogey track like Australia. Honestly Japan it might hard to tell until after Bahrian on who is where.collindsilva wrote: ↑24 Mar 2025, 05:54It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.
Haas was exactly at same tyre strategy as Stroll. Berman tyre wear was much better than Stroll especially on the medium. Stroll after few laps push got very slow while Berman could fight self in the top 10. I really don't know why you say what you say,but is not true.Ashwinv16 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2025, 06:50The car is clearly the best in the midfield teams in terms of tyre wear, but just no pace. Again can't read too much from China it is also a bogey track like Australia. Honestly Japan it might hard to tell until after Bahrian on who is where.collindsilva wrote: ↑24 Mar 2025, 05:54It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.
If they had the best tire wear, they would have gone faster right?. Race pace and tire wear are interlinked. You can't have good race pace and bad tire wear or viseversa.collindsilva wrote: ↑26 Mar 2025, 07:53Not sure on having best tyre wear, we will know by Japan, but race pace sucks.. it should be a easy fix with upgrades for better race pace...Ashwinv16 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2025, 06:50The car is clearly the best in the midfield teams in terms of tyre wear, but just no pace. Again can't read too much from China it is also a bogey track like Australia. Honestly Japan it might hard to tell until after Bahrian on who is where.collindsilva wrote: ↑24 Mar 2025, 05:54It is going to be a long season, seems the car is 9th in terms of race pace, just ahead of Sauber, Hoping for positive in season developments and upgrades.