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selvam_e2002 wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 17:29
basically Alonso running out of time. Sorry for him. Until there is a miracle happen......
2026 with newey and honda. if it doesnt happen, hes still rich

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diffuser wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 11:14
collindsilva wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 07:53
Ashwinv16 wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 06:50


The car is clearly the best in the midfield teams in terms of tyre wear, but just no pace. Again can't read too much from China it is also a bogey track like Australia. Honestly Japan it might hard to tell until after Bahrian on who is where.
Not sure on having best tyre wear, we will know by Japan, but race pace sucks.. it should be a easy fix with upgrades for better race pace...
If they had the best tire wear, they would have gone faster right?. Race pace and tire wear are interlinked. You can't have good race pace and bad tire wear or viseversa.

Choosing a single stop race strategy just means you didn't think you could increase your pace enough to over come the time of an extra pitstop + the risk of something going wrong in the pitstop.
I am not a technical guy, i may be wrong, but my assumption is race pace and tire wear may be interlinked but not on all cases, maybe someone on this forum with better knowledge of Aero can explain.

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collindsilva wrote:
27 Mar 2025, 09:07
diffuser wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 11:14
collindsilva wrote:
26 Mar 2025, 07:53


Not sure on having best tyre wear, we will know by Japan, but race pace sucks.. it should be a easy fix with upgrades for better race pace...
If they had the best tire wear, they would have gone faster right?. Race pace and tire wear are interlinked. You can't have good race pace and bad tire wear or viseversa.

Choosing a single stop race strategy just means you didn't think you could increase your pace enough to over come the time of an extra pitstop + the risk of something going wrong in the pitstop.
I am not a technical guy, i may be wrong, but my assumption is race pace and tire wear may be interlinked but not on all cases, maybe someone on this forum with better knowledge of Aero can explain.
thats probably a really complex set of answers. of course tire wear is going to be more as more friction takes place. speed creates more friction. but obviously, its not everything. the tires are the hardest part of a racecar to understand, and anyone that has answers isnt sharing them to their competitors. adding to the confusion is that every tire compound is different.tires are a big problem for aero designers, but aero isnt the biggest factor in tire wear i dont think. i think it would have more to do with mechanical grip, but, at the same time, its all interlinked. its all a bunch of voodoo and if somebody else has more info (im sure they do) id like to hear it too haha

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When comparing one to oneself and all things being equal, the faster the laptime, fewer laps the tires will last. That will occur 100% of the time and is true for all teams. Now there are things you can do like add wing, take off wing, softer/harder suspension, minimize dirty air, lift and coast, etc etc etc to mitigated the wear in race pace. Once you've done all you can to improve race pace, you'll still face the issue that the faster you go, the more the tires will wear. The only thing you can do is have faster race pace with less tire wear than other teams.

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diffuser wrote:
28 Mar 2025, 03:11
When comparing one to oneself and all things being equal, the faster the laptime, fewer laps the tires will last. That will occur 100% of the time and is true for all teams. Now there are things you can do like add wing, take off wing, softer/harder suspension, minimize dirty air, lift and coast, etc etc etc to mitigated the wear in race pace. Once you've done all you can to improve race pace, you'll still face the issue that the faster you go, the more the tires will wear. The only thing you can do is have faster race pace with less tire wear than other teams.
Ferrari could talk about the to much fuel combustion haha or to much wear on the plank (to low car which again miscalculated )

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Any idea on the updates, everything seems very quiet, no statement from the team ...

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collindsilva wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 06:19
Any idea on the updates, everything seems very quiet, no statement from the team ...
Personally I can go without the monthly Tom McCullough nonsense.

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imola for big upgrade package if i was to guess. since its the start of the european leg and with the flexi wing changes coming in barcelona

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We had a very successful Japan update last year.

Japan is almost a home race to boot, will be next year. The race is only 1 day earlier than it was last year.

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collindsilva wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 06:19
Any idea on the updates, everything seems very quiet, no statement from the team ...
I can simulate a statement if youd like...

"We understand the car a bit better now but due to sprint weekend, we couldnt test too many things. We have a better platform to build the car than last year. The The numbers in the wind tunnel look promising and we hope to translate that onto the track with next updates. Midfield is close and we are moving in the right direction. Lance is almost as good as Senna."

:wink:

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hahahaha the statement itself is false. How and when Lance is = Senna? from this line it dictates the entire statement is wrong.....

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peewon wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 00:00
collindsilva wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 06:19
Any idea on the updates, everything seems very quiet, no statement from the team ...
I can simulate a statement if youd like...

"We understand the car a bit better now but due to sprint weekend, we couldnt test too many things. We have a better platform to build the car than last year. The The numbers in the wind tunnel look promising and we hope to translate that onto the track with next updates. Midfield is close and we are moving in the right direction. Lance is almost as good as Senna."

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Well, the previous TP said that there is not much difference between Lance and Alonso, so why not?

Yet, if Lance Stroll had scored 0 points in the last 2 seasons, Aston Martin would still be 5th in every manufacturer.

2024 Alonso - 70Points, Stroll - 24 , 6th place Alpine with 65
2023 Alonso - 206Pts, Stroll - 74, 6th place Alpine with 120

They could simply run with one car for the last two seasons and still finish fifth and save millions.

“All jokes aside", that's the line of corporate statements that the team has to use, the team is valued at over a billion dollars, they can't say we're taking a year off and focusing on 2026.

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Aston Martin sells shares in F1 team, Lawrence Stroll continues to invest personally

Monday 31 March 2025 10:23 Last update: 10:34

Aston Martin announced on Monday that it is selling its £74 million minority stake in the Formula 1 team. The reason given is that the car giant's liquidity position needs to improve. In the statement, Lawrence Stroll, chairman of Aston Martin, emphasises that the long-term agreement remains unchanged, despite the change. Aston Martin, together with Mercedes, is often mentioned as the possible new team for Max Verstappen, if he leaves Red Bull Racing.

It is the next step since the Stroll-led consortium took over Racing Point, which resulted in the rebranding to Aston Martin in 2021. The decision to sell the stake comes from the need to optimise the financial strategy. Stroll and his Yew Tree Consortium partners are said to have pumped around £600m into motorsport since 2020 and this sale should provide them with more than £125m of additional liquidity. It fits within a wider restructuring, also given the previous investments and the repositioning of the team in Formula 1.

On the other hand, Lawrence Stroll recently reaffirmed his support for the brand by investing £52.5m himself in Aston Martin. “I am delighted to clearly demonstrate my unwavering support and commitment to Aston Martin,” he said. With this additional investment, he demonstrates yet again his belief in the long-term potential of the brand.
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So Stroll is reducing once more his shares in the F1 team, this time indirectly.

Company house says currently that Stroll (and his partners) company, Racing Point UK Holdings Limited, owns more than 25% of the teams shares, but less than 50%. But important: his company owns more than 75% of the teams voting rights.

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Well...
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/31/aston-m ... -cash.html
"Stroll’s stake in the company is poised to increase to roughly 33% from about 27.7% as part of the transaction."