2022 Alpine F1 Team

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Alonsismo wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:12
another loss of power for alonso in q3.

this is unbelievable
where did you get this?

Alonsismo
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draghixa wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:17
Alonsismo wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:12
another loss of power for alonso in q3.

this is unbelievable
where did you get this?
twitter

draghixa
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Alonsismo wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:23
draghixa wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:17
Alonsismo wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:12
another loss of power for alonso in q3.

this is unbelievable
where did you get this?
twitter
Can't find it on Alpine twitter, can you give the link please?

max_speed
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I dnt think powerloss happened. Alonso did not mention it while talking to journalists post quali.

The Prodigy
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Relax guys. We have two great drivers and tomorrow we need to make big points. Car looks good.

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Piastri has no experience in F1, Alonso in 2003 had, and remarkable.

He lapped his teammate in Minardi 2 or 3 times in the season, not comparable scenarios, Piastri is still an unknown in F1, Alonso wasn´t

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Andres125sx wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 22:12
He lapped his teammate in Minardi 2 or 3 times in the season, not comparable scenarios, Piastri is still an unknown in F1, Alonso wasn´t
Other unknowns like Kovalainen, Piquet, Petrov, Grosjean and Palmer were considered suitable to debut in Renault or Lotus...

Besides who didn't open their chequebook to buy either the vacant Williams seat for 2022, vacant Alfa Romeo seat for 2022, or the vacant HAAS seat that appeared in 2022 testing? Alpine have been extremely sluggish in finding Piastri an F1 seat.

If Alpine do not get a move along, they shouldn't be surprised when Piastri signs for McLaren for a guaranteed 2024-2025 contract, even if it means being reserve driver again for 2023, this time for McLaren... Unless McLaren can indeed persuade Ricciardo to move along, where a 2023 McLaren drive will be possible.

McLaren seems to be the preferred option of Piastri and Webber now, and McLaren seem to be keen on Piastri even if the Alpine team at a similar level think Piastri is not good enough. :wtf:

It really seems bizarre that Piastri is considered not good enough to debut for Alpine, when the likes of Kovalainen and Piquet considered good enough to debut for Renault. It will be Alpine's loss if Piastri switches to McLaren!

[Heikki Kovalainen] was supported by the Renault Driver Development programme early in his racing career, during which he won the World Series by Nissan championship and finished runner-up in the GP2 series. Renault signed him on as a full-time Formula One test driver for 2006, and then promoted him to a race seat for 2007.
During the 2007 season [Nelson Piquet Jr] was the official test and reserve driver for the Renault Formula One team. The 2008 season saw Piquet promoted to the Renault Formula One race team.
Romain Grosjean was confirmed as Renault's test driver for 2008, continuing in the role in 2009. Grosjean was promoted to Renault race driver from the 2009 European Grand Prix onwards.

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JordanMugen wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 03:48
It will be Alpine's loss if Piastri switches to McLaren!
Or not, that´s what unknown means.


People is assuming Piastri will be next Alonso, but Alonso is Alonso, according to most experts one of the best drivers in F1 history so you can´t expect Piastri to be that good. You most probably will be dissapointed and at the same time you´ll be unfair with Piastri while comparing him with Alonso (too high reference)

Piastri is just a promising young driver, but the list of promising young drivers who never delivered in F1 is too long to assume Piastri will be next Alonso even before his F1 debut.

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Andres125sx wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 12:31
Or not, that´s what unknown means.
Sure, but Red Bull would almost certainly gladly take Piastri into AlphaTauri or Williams would gladly take Piastri as a free agent. Alpine's dithering is absurd. Either Piastri is up to being an Alpine driver (at least in passing like other Renault juniors like Piquet or Grosjean), or Piastri is not up to it and should be released, no?

Andres125sx wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 12:31
Piastri is just a promising young driver, but the list of promising young drivers who never delivered in F1 is too long to assume Piastri will be next Alonso even before his F1 debut.
That's entirely the problem! Piastri's lack of a successful F1 debut as the reason for Piastri to not get an F1 debut seems rather like a circular argument!

If Piastri is not up to it in those other programs, he would go in the Red Bull F1 reject pile with Kvyat, Buemi, Alguersuari and the others, or the McLaren reject pile with Magnussen and Vandoorne, but at least he would have debuted in F1.

Alpine are being very lax, they haven't even provided Piastri with a FP1 outing yet, meanwhile De Vries has already had two outings in two different teams, suitably generating hype and buzz around a possible Aston Martin race seat for the Dutch driver.

The delays on the announcement of Piastri's F1 debut are quite concerning, it is bad enough there was no F1 debut arranged for 2021.

Take Red Bull as an example, even when Toro Rosso was full, Red Bull were proactive and put Ricciardo into a vacancy at Hispania Racing in order to obtain an F1 debut in a timely manner. Meanwhile a vacancy at HAAS racing opened up and what did Alpine do? They didn't open the chequebook and put Piastri into that seat, instead they did nothing. :wtf:
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Alonsismo
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Alpine can just fire ocon and put piastri as 2nd driver.

Ocon is a very normal driver, he is just like bottas, fast but mediocre.

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Alonsismo wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 13:50
Alpine can just fire ocon and put piastri as 2nd driver.

Ocon is a very normal driver, he is just like bottas, fast but mediocre.
Ocon has a contract. :)

One worries that Alpine are too cheap to spend $5-10m to place Piastri at Williams on loan, just as they were too cheap to spend $5-10m to place Piastri at HAAS on loan. :wtf:

At this point it seems Piastri & Webber will wait for the Alpine contract to expire due to Alpine not providing an F1 drive of any kind (loan etc), and then look for an unencumbered contract elsewhere such as Williams, McLaren, Aston Martin or Red Bull junior program? :)

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JordanMugen wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 13:52
Alonsismo wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 13:50
Alpine can just fire ocon and put piastri as 2nd driver.

Ocon is a very normal driver, he is just like bottas, fast but mediocre.
Ocon has a contract. :)

One worries that Alpine are too cheap to spend $5-10m to place Piastri at Williams on loan, just as they were too cheap to spend $5-10m to place Piastri at HAAS on loan. :wtf:

At this point it seems Piastri & Webber will wait for the Alpine contract to expire due to Alpine not providing an F1 drive of any kind (loan etc), and then look for an unencumbered contract elsewhere such as Williams, McLaren, Aston Martin or Red Bull junior program? :)
contracts can be broken.
remember ferarri and kimi after 2009

SchuMassa
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Ocon once again hindering the team effort at the start. Incredible.

Michelangelo
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That was too harsh, gifting Hamilton two positions.

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ocon...
this is unacceptable