Yeah exactly, just a hold it down and press another random button with the other hand, means it takes the same time to ativate but is almost impossible to do by mistake. Problem solved.littlebigcat wrote: ↑09 Jun 2021, 12:18The position isn't necessarily the problem, I'd say the UI elements are more of the issue. All it needs to be is press and hold to toggle on, with a single press off and some audio feedback and the issue will be avoid in the future.
He has been using this technique since germany 2019214270 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2021, 23:14We’ll if HAMs start procedure was conventional I’d probably agree with you, it isn’t. It’s hard to know exactly when he started resting his hand on the steering wheel, but I think it’s the 19/20 season. The ratio is therefore something like 1 accidental press in maybe 30ish starts (at a guess). That’s a pretty poor strike rate. And as for a fix, a double tap to activate or similar sorts the problem out.Big Tea wrote: ↑08 Jun 2021, 23:04But it still has to be easily usable. Don't know how many races it has been there and how many other cars have it, but is a once off accident worth too much effort when we consider where it will be moved to etc as it is obviously in an appropriate place which he is no doubt used to. Maybe a warning light that stays on? but the wheel is already a very buzzy place. Obviously if there is a ready option then a fix should be done, but a one in 10 thousand (or what ever) can not usually be designed around easily and could just being another hazard like missing it during a race.214270 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2021, 22:40
It isn’t so much a case of - not doing it again, more a recognition/understanding that there’s a significant hand grip change that happens during starts/restarts because of how HAM positions his hand over the steering wheel. Given that this is known and the button is placed where it is, a countermeasure of sorts would be prudent. Job done
Not saying it should not be 'fixed', but is it a kneejerk again
I generally watch a lot of onboards on F1TV and my favorite driver is Lewis so yeah
Any official source that it is on the left? I thought that was a guess too? I think it was Bono who told Lewis he hit it on the upshift. You can clearly see his index finger near the area where those rear buttons are on the right side on his shift from 2nd to 3rd.214270 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2021, 16:06No, Palmer is assuming it’s on the right because it happened on the upshift. He doesn’t know exactly and says as much. It is in fact on the left for HAM. BOT has it on the front amongst the prime switch real estate. Not sure what the corresponding button at the rear on the right is for though.
I guess the confluence of upshifting, steering away from PER & altering hand position led to the inadvertent press.
Not quite sure what you mean by official, but there’s a good illustration here: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/expl ... u/6544419/e30ernest wrote: ↑09 Jun 2021, 16:53Any official source that it is on the left? I thought that was a guess too? I think it was Bono who told Lewis he hit it on the upshift. You can clearly see his index finger near the area where those rear buttons are on the right side on his shift from 2nd to 3rd.214270 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2021, 16:06No, Palmer is assuming it’s on the right because it happened on the upshift. He doesn’t know exactly and says as much. It is in fact on the left for HAM. BOT has it on the front amongst the prime switch real estate. Not sure what the corresponding button at the rear on the right is for though.
I guess the confluence of upshifting, steering away from PER & altering hand position led to the inadvertent press.
The simplest fix would be that the button has to be depressed for a certain period of time to turn on, and then only stays active while it's continually depressed. Unless Merc is using some kind of special button this would most likely be purely a software update.The brake magic button on the back of the Mercedes steering wheel is there to give an instant switch to almost full front brake bias as an aid to heating up the front tyres before the start or restart of a race. In normal running the front bias would be running at something like 52-53%. Brake magic switches it instantly to whatever it’s been set for – in this case believed to be 86.5%. It is not a race setting and is only used on warm-up laps or behind the Safety Car.
He's always had the opinion that Bottas doesn't get his elbows out enough and isn't aggressive enough.