More details about McLaren's technical leadership changes are becoming public as it has now become clear that Toro Rosso's highly valued technical director, James Key, is set to join McLaren in the same role.
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Speaking of Toro Rosso, they did just 1 lap in the afternoon session. Definitely some kind of issue. Had this been mclaren Honda it would have been well publicised and all the doom and gloom stories all over the Web would be popping up at this moment...
Sorry but with quotes from Boullier yesterday saying "now we have a F1 car" is Mclaren who are shooting on their own foot
Corrected
I'm not defending what boullier said. He does talk rubbish sometimes. However my point stands
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its obviouly the heat thats melting everything... cant be that the works team does not know how big in liters of ir is needed to cool, but mclaren knows they can with far less...
Sorry but I find this post pretty funny. So basically you´re acusing McLaren about being too wise (about the aerodinamic requirements for his car and PU), just a line after assuming you know it´s a cooling problem that melted everything, based on the information you get from the media?
Not again, and again, and again.....How many times do I have to remind contributors that the topic of this thread is McLaren Renault? Forget Honda, it is over and done with There is nothing to be gained by bringing Honda into every post, other than your post will be removed as being "off topic".
starting to think Peter Prodromou was the problem not Honda hmmmm
Yep, he underpowered Honda engine, at least for 50bhp.
it seems you still can't understand what this current regulation formula is about its ok i was like you but i realized it HAHA
its THE AIR and sucking air and just more air you are not going anywhere with reducing your body work and cooling
a powerfull PU needs alot of air inside the compressor and a very good cooling.. heck you need a 7 races pu in 2018.
starting to think Peter Prodromou was the problem not Honda hmmmm
Yep, he underpowered Honda engine, at least for 50bhp.
it seems you still can't understand what this current regulation formula is about its ok i was like you but i realized it HAHA
its THE AIR and sucking air and just more air you are not going anywhere with reducing your body work and cooling
a powerfull PU needs alot of air inside the compressor and a very good cooling.. heck you need a 7 races pu in 2018. https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 6.high.jpg
Ioner knows what modern PU need but Peter Prodrumou doesn't.
"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication & competence."
Yep, he underpowered Honda engine, at least for 50bhp.
it seems you still can't understand what this current regulation formula is about its ok i was like you but i realized it HAHA
its THE AIR and sucking air and just more air you are not going anywhere with reducing your body work and cooling
a powerfull PU needs alot of air inside the compressor and a very good cooling.. heck you need a 7 races pu in 2018. https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 6.high.jpg
Ioner knows what modern PU need but Peter Prodrumou doesn't.
we will know for sure this year if he is just shambles or not
it seems you still can't understand what this current regulation formula is about its ok i was like you but i realized it HAHA
its THE AIR and sucking air and just more air you are not going anywhere with reducing your body work and cooling
a powerfull PU needs alot of air inside the compressor and a very good cooling.. heck you need a 7 races pu in 2018. https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-we ... 6.high.jpg
Ioner knows what modern PU need but Peter Prodrumou doesn't.
we will know for sure this year if he is just shambles or not
It's true he has gone agressive, and there is already a report(in mcl33 thread) that there will be some changes to bodywork to adress cooling but he must of been advised by someone how far he can go whit it.....problems they are having ATM are not because of PP, they are due to late PU decidion and are called Integration problems.
Car looks very very good in turns 1-2-3 According to Pedro De La Rosa and a few others prof. racing drivers watching live last week. Better than all other midfield teams.
"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication & competence."
"We are here to test, and today is what sometimes happens in testing"
DAY ONE OVERVIEW
Date Tuesday 6 March 2018
Driver Stoffel Vandoorne
Location Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya (4.655km/2.892 miles)
Laps/km/miles 38/177km/110miles
Best laptime 1:21.946
PROGRAMME
An interrupted day to kick off the second week of pre-season testing in Barcelona.
The team suffered some niggling issues that meant running was relatively stop-start throughout the day. After an initial install lap as the track went green at 09:00am, Stoffel reported a loss of electrical power to the car and coasted back into the pits.
The same issue affected his next run, when after another three laps all electrical power to the car shut down, and Stoffel stopped out on track. The team investigated the issue and elected to swap the battery, after which Stoffel returned to the track just before lunch.
Despite a productive early-afternoon stint out on track, Stoffel’s run was cut short with a suspected hydraulic leak just before 16:00hrs. Due to the location of the leak, the investigation and fix were naturally time-consuming, and meant the day’s running concluded early.
Nevertheless, Stoffel completed 38 laps and still managed to gather a lot of useful data in preparation for tomorrow’s running.
STOFFEL VANDOORNE, McLaren Driver
“Today was challenging because of the issues we had which interrupted our running for today. We had a few stoppages on track, and we’ve been working through each one to make sure we’re fully prepared for tomorrow.
“The kinds of issue we’ve had weren’t particularly serious, but have taken a relatively long time to fix, so we weren’t able to run as much as we planned. The conditions this afternoon were quite tricky due to the wind, so the running we did wasn’t so representative.
“We’re hopeful the issues have been fixed and we can have a more productive day tomorrow.”
ERIC BOULLIER, Racing Director
“Today wasn’t the day we had hoped for on track, but, despite this, we aren’t overly concerned about the issues that we’ve faced today.
“It’s obviously not the productive day we had planned, but the problems – a battery issue and a hydraulic leak – are the types of niggles that we almost hope and expect to face during testing, in order to prepare us properly for the season ahead.
“We are here to test, and today is what sometimes happens in testing. It’s not ideal, and we would have liked more track time, but we’re working on it, we’re learning from it, and we’ll return to the track tomorrow armed with more information.”
Well it at least seems that none of the problems are being caused by the cooling, which is a good thing.
The validation method for batteries is quite interesting, Renault do it itself with a live stress test, then they select the best candidates. Theses methods from electronic industry are far way form classical methods used in mechanic area such as metrology / x ray inspection.
