Oscar had a bad race in Mexico but has matched norris point for point in the second half of the season.. McLaren just as fast as redbull in the first half of the season
Norris is solely responsible for blowing at least three wins: Barcelona, Hungary, and Spa. He also shares the blame with his team for Silverstone and with Max for Austria.TeamKoolGreen wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 02:08Norris didn't blow it. The team and Piastri blew it for him.
And all of those actions might also cost the WCC if they aren't lucky.
So true. Is not like is raining only for McLaren. Of course, if you have a fast car, dry is better, but things may happen in wet and could be in your favor or against you. Is not like you can control weather. Let's hope for a clean (incident free) race and I trust at least Lando can have a good drive, although I saw also Oscar is ok on wet track. Vs. McLaren boys, Charles is less than average on rain, at least couple of seasons, and Carlos is not excellent either. In wet I see a battle with Max, Lewis and maybe George.bauc wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 11:13If we want to be champions, we must be fast in all conditions on all tracksMacafangrskg wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 10:48The weather is not to our favor
https://www.accuweather.com/en/br/aut%C ... 180172_poi
The Sprint Qualification and Fp1 with wet then on Friday the Sprint Race and Race Qualification in dry and high propabily for wet race day.
Interlagos is known for some wacky races in the wet
BMMR61 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 09:25You guys carrying on like clickbaiters. Really, armchair experts, McLaren were not expected to challenge for any titles in 2024, just the odd win. Suddenly they are being called "fastest" and "dominant". Both are very arbitrary, especially in a season of such small margins. F1 hasn't always been like Mercedes 2014 - 2020 and Red Bull 2021 - 2023. Seven drivers have won GPs in 4 different cars (sorry Checo). Catching Max was always going to be difficult with his early season wins. Then one person suggested Lando could overhaul 80 points (never been done before) and everyone is on the bandwagon. Some people were suggesting Oscar should be made to play the donkey with 10 races to go. McLaren were messing up. People got so invested in their desire for another champion for whatever reasons.TeamKoolGreen wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 02:08Norris didn't blow it. The team and Piastri blew it for him.
And all of those actions might also cost the WCC if they aren't lucky.
Even with some of the wheel to wheel failings of Lando, it's just unfair. He has only had a truly competitive car since Miami, Max has had a competitive car for 4 years and has developed his race craft enormously. Even if Lando (or Oscar) don't rise to Max's brilliant best he (they) deserve our tremendous respect. We the fans aren't owed anything. Sure there's been times where McLaren's race strategies have been somewhat.... green, Hungary, Silverstone mainly, leading the WCC came as a lovely surprise. I agree it will be a bitter pill but to say Oscar could cost them the WCC is frankly outrageous. His Baku win was arguably the gutsiest of the year in a car which was not the clear fastest.
Related to this, in Brazil full upgrades on both cars:_cerber1 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 13:07AMUS
Only Lando Norris received new parts. At the final of the Mexican Grand Prix, the world championship runner-up demonstrated what the new development is worth. The older the tires, the more Norris caught up. This is usually Ferrari's domain. Team Principal Andrea Stella noted with satisfaction: "We put Ferrari in a difficult position on the Ferrari track. With the update, we are back on their level."
Probably not if you consider 2024, but maybe JP is targeting next F1 years of Lando and Max. If Max knows that Lando is ready to crash into him, or to race as hard as Max is doing, he will think twice before doing "Mexico" moves. This year Max is allowing to lose some point as long as Lando is doing the same, but maybe next year this game will not play in his favor, and losing to Lando means other driver with chances may take the lead (Leclerc, Hamilton, Oscar etc).
Fixed that for AMuS._cerber1 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 13:07AMUS
Only Lando Norris received new parts. At the final of the Mexican Grand Prix, the world championship runner-up demonstrated what the new development is worth. The lower the track temp, the more Norris caught up. This is usually not Ferrari's domain. Team Principal Andrea Stella noted with satisfaction: "We put Ferrari in a difficult position on the Ferrari track. With the update, we are back on their level."
On their level?_cerber1 wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 13:07AMUS
Only Lando Norris received new parts. At the final of the Mexican Grand Prix, the world championship runner-up demonstrated what the new development is worth. The older the tires, the more Norris caught up. This is usually Ferrari's domain. Team Principal Andrea Stella noted with satisfaction: "We put Ferrari in a difficult position on the Ferrari track. With the update, we are back on their level."