2014/15 Silly Season

Post here all non technical related topics about Formula One. This includes race results, discussions, testing analysis etc. TV coverage and other personal questions should be in Off topic chat.
Sasha
Sasha
62
Joined: 07 Jul 2013, 07:43

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

Alonso might have more say about what driver will be in the other seat and he wants Button.

It looks like he is bringing money to the team thru two major sponsors and maybe more.

And that would put him in good graces with the Bahrain Royal Family(50% owner of Mclaren).Honda wouldn't mind Button for one more year.

User avatar
FW17
171
Joined: 06 Jan 2010, 10:56

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

f1universe wrote:I understand why Alonso and Dennis will not want to take tea together but they should put the team first, nobody is going to ask them to hug or anything like that, just work as the professionals they are.

But if I have to take Alonso or Dennis, I will take Alonso, as much success Dennis had in the past, that was a long time ago, in the last 10 years he screw things more than fix it.

My opinion.
Mclaren need Ron Dennis as he is Mclaren. Unless Ron is running the team and kicking honda and the engineers while having alonso as his wing man, there is no shorter route to a WDC.

When Alonso and Dennis need to put aside the difference that is going to be a very dark combination in F1

Sasha
Sasha
62
Joined: 07 Jul 2013, 07:43

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

Alonso signed a firm two year + one year contract.

User avatar
iotar__
7
Joined: 28 Sep 2012, 12:31

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

adrianjordan wrote:Personally I would love to see JB stay at McLaren. So here's my (probably fantasy land) scenario:
McLaren sign Alonso and Button for next season as well as surprising everyone by agreeing to run a 3rd car with Vandoorne in it (to benefit from the extra mileage).
Magnussen is given a seat at the new McLaren (Honda owned and powered) junior team (built from the remanants of Marussia and run by Mr Aguri...) alongside Kobayashi....
(Well it IS called "Silly Season"..!!)
Silly season or not isn't it too much to have three cars and junior teams at the same time? BTW McLaren and Horner are not keen on three cars, probably because it would mean the whole podium for Mercedes, expect customer cars instead. In your scenario: if Magnussen is not good enough even for the third car why keep him at all ;-) ?

As for Magnussen vs Button - neither. Button is ancient and not fast or sharp enough, one half decent race with limited competition doesn't change it. Magnussen in comparison was even worse, hard to say how much of it is related to rushing his debut (can improve but how much?). Good thing is that in the near future of F1 as a pro wrestling type pseudo sport bad driver choices won't matter much.If we replace competition with junior teams we can fail season after season (McLaren/Ferrari), money is similar and the worst position fourth.
Sasha wrote: [...] So there is a power struggle going on at Mclaren at the moment.Dennis(25%) is trying to stay as boss but BMH(50%) and Honda wants either Berger,Whitmarsh(signed Honda) or Horner.Nobody knows yet what was the outcome of the emergency meeting of the three shareholders of Mclaren.It looks like Dennis has the support of Ogier(25%),so it's a Mexican standoff!
And that was the major reason Alonso didn't sign the dotted line until now.(so is Dennis gone and back to the auto side?)
Makes sense and might explain why they delay second driver announcement, it's not like they don't know everything about them. If you add recent changes in technical department it's too big of a chaos for a serious contender.

User avatar
Kiril Varbanov
147
Joined: 05 Feb 2012, 15:00
Location: Bulgaria, Sofia

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

GRO just announced he'll stay with Lotus for 2015. And deleted the tweet....

Richard
Richard
Moderator
Joined: 15 Apr 2009, 14:41
Location: UK

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

iotar__ wrote:Good thing is that in the near future of F1 as a pro wrestling type pseudo sport bad driver choices won't matter much.If we replace competition with junior teams we can fail season after season (McLaren/Ferrari), money is similar and the worst position fourth.
You might not be too far off. Fill the grid with customer teams, even GP2 teams if needed :arrow: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116734

Jonnycraig
Jonnycraig
6
Joined: 12 Apr 2013, 20:48

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

Going off on a tangent, if Caterham manage to make Abu Dhabi, Alice Powell's family has offered £35k for an FP1 drive.

For those not au fait with Powell, she took part in GP3 a few years ago without much success, and is a club racer these days.

Harsha
Harsha
12
Joined: 01 Dec 2012, 14:35

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

Here is grosjean tweet
Image

Jashko
Jashko
7
Joined: 12 Jul 2012, 14:11

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

mikeerfol wrote:Can Silly season get sillier? Obvious answer: Yes it can! http://blog.axisofoversteer.com/2014/11 ... ht-be.html

Guys the most (un)probable, the silliest thing that will happen!

Honda - Ferrari colaboration on power unit, it all ads up. Alonso staying at Ferrari, Vettel and Alonso drivers, Kimi to McLaren. Hahahahah :D :D :D

Honda and Ferrari creating the most potent power unit ever, sending the Mercs to oblivion.

That's why Alonso is smiling all the time, this has not been done...ever!:D

User avatar
djos
113
Joined: 19 May 2006, 06:09
Location: Melbourne, Australia

2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!)

Post

Speaking of tweeting:
Come race with us: Mark Webber encourages Button to come to FIA WEC
http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/co ... scom:speed

There are also rumors of a 3rd car being entered for 2015 by Porsche.
"In downforce we trust"

Lasse-E
Lasse-E
0
Joined: 06 Oct 2014, 16:55
Location: Denmark

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

McLaren will be running their Honda powered development car at Silverstone tomorrow, would be interesting to know who is going to drive it, as that might give a solid indication of 2015 driver line-up. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116751
Last edited by Lasse-E on 13 Nov 2014, 12:25, edited 1 time in total.

sectionate
sectionate
1
Joined: 03 Sep 2013, 17:33

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

Lasse-E wrote:McLaren will be running there Honda powered development car at Silverstone tomorrow, would be interesting to know who is going to drive it, as that might give a solid indication of 2015 driver line-up.
Bet you its a test driver, not one from the current line up
Last edited by sectionate on 13 Nov 2014, 15:19, edited 1 time in total.

Lasse-E
Lasse-E
0
Joined: 06 Oct 2014, 16:55
Location: Denmark

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

Bet you its a get driver, not one from the current line up
You might be right, but it would make sense to run a driver with experiences of their 2014 car, so I guess Vandoorne is a likely candidate, as he as far as I know is the only other driver to have tested for McLaren this year.

User avatar
mikeerfol
68
Joined: 20 Apr 2013, 22:19
Location: Greece

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

How about Alonso using Vandoorne's helmet? :lol:

User avatar
Kiril Varbanov
147
Joined: 05 Feb 2012, 15:00
Location: Bulgaria, Sofia

Re: 2014/15 Silly Season (yes this includes ALO and VET too!

Post

According to Dario Motorsport, Button will leave Mclaren at the end of this season: http://www.diariomotorsport.com.br/2014 ... temporada/