2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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Enough with the senior management role offers. Too many cooks in the kitchen already.

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TyreSlip wrote:
26 Dec 2025, 18:47
Enough with the senior management role offers. Too many cooks in the kitchen already.

They let 7 people go. So this must be a Newey appointment, along with many of the others, something he thought was needed.

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Pretty sure Lawrence Stroll is maneuvering to get max eventually

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FNTC wrote:
26 Dec 2025, 22:17
Pretty sure Lawrence Stroll is maneuvering to get max eventually
Many drivers with "average" ability have won with Newey cars. I personally don't want to see him with AM F1.

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TyreSlip wrote:
26 Dec 2025, 18:47
Enough with the senior management role offers. Too many cooks in the kitchen already.
Nah, we need more of them. Specially related to strategy/race engineering

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FNTC wrote:
25 Dec 2025, 22:25
I agree on the general premise, the difference here is that Mercedes was completely dominant early in the hybrid era from 2014, and now they tried to lower the compression from 18:1 to 16:1 so make Mercedes completely redesign their engine, so Audi etc would have a chance. But if Mercedes have found a way to still use something close to 18:1 then that all goes away. But still others might have found other things, that are not yet talked about of course.
Also there is a possibility that this compression trick results in reliability issues for Mercedes.
I am also pretty confident that Adrian Newey could easily make some magic so that the aero overcomes a 15hp deficit, too.
I think I would still rather have Newey with a slightly weaker engine, than be Mercedes with a stronger one (if that happens).
You are forgetting all the catch up Honda did from 2015 to 2021. Honda ended the regulations pretty much leveled with the merc engine.

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Of course I am not forgetting that, the point is if Honda goes from 18 to 16:1 and Merc gets to keep closer to 18

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FNTC wrote:
25 Dec 2025, 22:25
I agree on the general premise, the difference here is that Mercedes was completely dominant early in the hybrid era from 2014, and now they tried to lower the compression from 18:1 to 16:1 so make Mercedes completely redesign their engine, so Audi etc would have a chance. But if Mercedes have found a way to still use something close to 18:1 then that all goes away. But still others might have found other things, that are not yet talked about of course.
Also there is a possibility that this compression trick results in reliability issues for Mercedes.
I am also pretty confident that Adrian Newey could easily make some magic so that the aero overcomes a 15hp deficit, too.
I think I would still rather have Newey with a slightly weaker engine, than be Mercedes with a stronger one (if that happens).
Doesn't it just drive you crazy how the FIA can try and help weaker PU manufacturers by taking a physical limitation and turn it into a handicap while injecting costs for everyone? Did they not know that different metals expand at different rates when heated and that teams would try to exploit that unless you can keep them honest? Only way to keep PU manufactures honest is to measure the compression real time.

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Good luck, team.
Apart from the engine differences of course, 'how different will each car look w.r.t others, before they all converge to a similar looking design 2-3 yrs later' ?
My bet is on engine air intake and sidepods looking tremendously different from anything seen in the last two decades and each team will have their own interpretation, because they are going to be dictated by :
- just 500bhp peak power from ICE
- inwashing front floor bargeboard force-defined in the regulations ; teams are going to go hell for leather with 'innovations' towards the back half of the floor/sidepod, to 'reflect' this inwash back to outwash, so that coke bottle area is protected.

Discuss, please, it will be fun to make such 'predictions' before the cars are unveiled in Jan'26 and then we can find out how wrong we've been. :D

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venkyhere wrote:
29 Dec 2025, 02:14
Good luck, team.
Apart from the engine differences of course, 'how different will each car look w.r.t others, before they all converge to a similar looking design 2-3 yrs later' ?
My bet is on engine air intake and sidepods looking tremendously different from anything seen in the last two decades and each team will have their own interpretation, because they are going to be dictated by :
- just 500bhp peak power from ICE
- inwashing front floor bargeboard force-defined in the regulations ; teams are going to go hell for leather with 'innovations' towards the back half of the floor/sidepod, to 'reflect' this inwash back to outwash, so that coke bottle area is protected.

Discuss, please, it will be fun to make such 'predictions' before the cars are unveiled in Jan'26 and then we can find out how wrong we've been. :D
- inwashing front floor bargeboard force-defined in the regulations ; teams are going to go hell for leather with 'innovations' towards the back half of the floor/sidepod, to 'reflect' this inwash back to outwash, so that coke bottle area is protected.

This has been impossible since before 2022 until the new regulations came along creating outwash sidepods. However new regs clamps it back down to 2021 levels, and the fences like back in 2017 are back on the side pods but i think an angle constraint exists so they have to be pointing inwards so sidepod related outwash will disappear (excluding loophole potential which i cant see but i ain't no f1 engineer). Generally you want more airflow into the coke bottle region as max airflow benefits far outweigh clean airflow in the area to feed fast turbulent air moving air to the top of the floor entry so that it create a low pressure zone improving the suction effect. Again if it is clean it will help the rear wing downforce more so trade offs.

By the way at some point in wash designs will be more benfecial than outwash. Think of it like pouring a water into a funnel. Smooth flowing water will quickly direct the water into the funnel in a predictable manner compared to turbulent(random splattery) water but sticking a hose down the funnel will force a whole lot of water through the funnel anyway despite a few amounts spilling out of the funnel. In wash is like this and if the final water amount exceeds what a smooth flow can offer than screw the wasted water, in this case that's drag. Also if your engine is better than the rest then you can just "waterboard" the car with downforce (we got flat floors now so no bouncing and just increase the rake to combat the "turblence" like red bull did back in 2017-2021 era and even before)
Halo not as bad as we thought

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The team shared a video of car start-up.

Typical Honda crispness.

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Happy and Prosperous new year!!!!!

Starting of a new era, in all possible ways for AM. Investment in Infrastructure, People and technology going to make, this a formidable F1 team. If everything comes together especially from Honda-side; year 2026 is going to be a phenomenal year for the team.
Though excited for 2026, I am cautiously optimistic for this year.
My prediction for 26: -
a. Alonso to win at least 5 races and same no of pole positions.
b. Lance to win at least 1 race and multiple podium finishes.
c. AM’s progress in year 26 convince Alonso to stay another 2 years with the team.
d. By end of 26, AM immerge as a firm favorite title contender for 2027.

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Alonso winning 5 races would put him firmly in a title fight.

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NAPI10 wrote:
01 Jan 2026, 17:34
Happy and Prosperous new year!!!!!

Starting of a new era, in all possible ways for AM. Investment in Infrastructure, People and technology going to make, this a formidable F1 team. If everything comes together especially from Honda-side; year 2026 is going to be a phenomenal year for the team.
Though excited for 2026, I am cautiously optimistic for this year.
My prediction for 26: -
a. Alonso to win at least 5 races and same no of pole positions.
b. Lance to win at least 1 race and multiple podium finishes.
c. AM’s progress in year 26 convince Alonso to stay another 2 years with the team.
d. By end of 26, AM immerge as a firm favorite title contender for 2027.
Alonso has a little child coming soon, i will really surprise if he is not retire this year.

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