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[zoroastar]

Dan fallows updated his LinkedIn again. No longer a chief engineer now.

3 disastrous cars he’s made considering the amr23 at the beginning wasn’t even his doing

What do you mean the AMR23 wasn't Fallows' doing? He joined in the spring of '22 and was given carte blanche by Lawrence.

i think hes saying fallows brought over a redbull, painted it green and called it the AMR23 haha

[collindsilva]

Dan fallows updated his LinkedIn again. No longer a chief engineer now.

3 disastrous cars he’s made considering the amr23 at the beginning wasn’t even his doing

What do you mean the AMR23 wasn't Fallows' doing? He joined in the spring of '22 and was given carte blanche by Lawrence.

i think hes saying fallows brought over a redbull, painted it green and called it the AMR23 haha

Whatever maybe, The car was good and Alonso got many podiums, Special mention on mexico...

[Nikosar]

Dan fallows updated his LinkedIn again. No longer a chief engineer now.

3 disastrous cars he’s made considering the amr23 at the beginning wasn’t even his doing

What do you mean the AMR23 wasn't Fallows' doing? He joined in the spring of '22 and was given carte blanche by Lawrence.

i think hes saying fallows brought over a redbull, painted it green and called it the AMR23 haha

Many speculated that AMR23 was a copy of Red Bull, but Fallows was announced in summer of 2021 and the agreement reached allowed Fallows to join Aston Martin only in April 2022. So he spent almost a year away from Red Bull, which logically distanced him from everything.

He probably brought the aerodynamic philosophical approach to the car but could not have copied. Plus, the Mercedes hardware, forced Fallows to forge his own aero path.

So AMR23 was indeed a successful car, then he failed to developed it but there's many factors in the equitation that led to the failure not uniquely his work, e.g. : Whitmarsh's management.

[SSJ4]

Andrew Green was in charge of the amr23 iirc

Also Aston Martin signed Gioacchino Vino Chief Aerodynamicist from Mercedes. So makes sense why fallows got booted

[diffuser]

What do you mean the AMR23 wasn't Fallows' doing? He joined in the spring of '22 and was given carte blanche by Lawrence.

i think hes saying fallows brought over a redbull, painted it green and called it the AMR23 haha

Many speculated that AMR23 was a copy of Red Bull, but Fallows was announced in summer of 2021 and the agreement reached allowed Fallows to join Aston Martin only in April 2022. So he spent almost a year away from Red Bull, which logically distanced him from everything.

He probably brought the aerodynamic philosophical approach to the car but could not have copied. Plus, the Mercedes hardware, forced Fallows to forge his own aero path.

So AMR23 was indeed a successful car, then he failed to developed it but there's many factors in the equitation that led to the failure not uniquely his work, e.g. : Whitmarsh's management.

What did Whitmarsh do?

[Nikosar]

i think hes saying fallows brought over a redbull, painted it green and called it the AMR23 haha

Many speculated that AMR23 was a copy of Red Bull, but Fallows was announced in summer of 2021 and the agreement reached allowed Fallows to join Aston Martin only in April 2022. So he spent almost a year away from Red Bull, which logically distanced him from everything.

He probably brought the aerodynamic philosophical approach to the car but could not have copied. Plus, the Mercedes hardware, forced Fallows to forge his own aero path.

So AMR23 was indeed a successful car, then he failed to developed it but there's many factors in the equitation that led to the failure not uniquely his work, e.g. : Whitmarsh's management.

What did Whitmarsh do?

Culture and strategy come from the top down. Strategic decisions come from above the technical director, especially when there's pressure from Lawrence to deliver results fast.

Whitmarsh comes from a different era, and while he has the credit from delivering the new factory on time and within budget his absence from F1 for seven years might mean his input is more business than on cutting-edge car philosophy. That could lead to mismatches with what a technical director like Fallows was trying to build. The floor upgrade strategy might even have been a Whitmarsh 's directive.

This is why Cowell was appointed, to rise the team to the standards to what he was used to at Mercedes.

[Rikrikrik]

After 2 and a half years Aston finally got their final objective. They are the worst team in the grid. Its so impressive how they sank down into the grid every single time after Canada 2023. We Could have any hope yet?

[KimiRai]

Culture and strategy come from the top down. Strategic decisions come from above the technical director, especially when there's pressure from Lawrence to deliver results fast.

Dan Fallows

No team goes into each year’s championship saying that they want to come 7th. There is always a plan for world domination - if not this year then next, or the year after. Yes, we might be slow now but just watch us in the next 2-3 years. Clearly not everyone can achieve success so that leaves a lot of teams with dented egos and disappointed sponsors. The pressure to do better is relentless. When you are doing well, the pressure to stay there is even greater.

Good managers and leaders try their best to limit this pressure and focus it into motivation rather than stress. But it’s not easy, and when the car is doing badly, everyone feels it. The reality is that some people react to that well and some others deal with it badly. Really badly.

https://danfallows.substack.com/p/why-work-in-f1

Ouch.

[PinkFloydPulse]

lol... something was and seems still to be rotten in this team... crazy...

[mvfad]

I suspect this was the worst car Drugovich has driven for Aston Martin in FP1 since late 2022. lol

[Luscion]

Dan Fallows is about to close the Aston Martin book for good. He will not be part of the new management structure

[Sedaxel]

My god... Alonso's steering wheel detaches. AM is starting to be a clown team. Unbelievable.

[Sedaxel]

Thanks to God it didn't happen while going fast. It could've been a very serious problem. They're pushing really hard to be the worst team of the F1.

Sorry for the rant, mates. I'm absolutely discouraged by this bad situation than only gets worse and worse as time goes by.

[SchuMassa]

Joke of a team. Fernando will not get any mileage today. Would be a miracle if he made it out of Q1...
Glad to hear Fallows is leaving. Krack should be next!

[TLof]

What is going on with this unserious team? Slow pace, not a clue about the reasons, driveability is a mess, pit stops are average at best, car breaks down at random and now the wheel detaches itself.