Ferrari F1-75

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SiLo wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 20:53
So they have reduced the volume of the diffuser? I wonder if they have contra-rotating flow from either side and having them separated a little longer is better?
Perhaps there was an area of local turbulence that became visible at higher speeds than are achievable in the wind tunnel, filling that area (and removing the ‘blocking’ characteristics of it) could improve flow with little harm at lower speeds.
It ALMOST looks like an attempt at a central strake….
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saviour stivala wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 21:50
In the old days of ground-effect cars there were only two ways to get over any porpoising problems that showed up, one was by restricting the venturi inlet and the other by expanding its outlet. By doing so one would lose some down force but could result in faster laptime.
I think Scalabroni has mentioned this before... restricting the inlet size was the way to go.

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warpomex wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 09:26
saviour stivala wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 21:50
In the old days of ground-effect cars there were only two ways to get over any porpoising problems that showed up, one was by restricting the venturi inlet and the other by expanding its outlet. By doing so one would lose some down force but could result in faster laptime.
Interpreted this here latest picture as minimizing it (the venture outlet).
I think Scalabroni has mentioned this before... restricting the inlet size was the way to go.

''Or expanding its outlet'' which is most propably what FERRARI have opted to do. although some have Interpreted this here latest picture as minimizing it (the venture outlet).

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Stu wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 08:47
SiLo wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 20:53
So they have reduced the volume of the diffuser? I wonder if they have contra-rotating flow from either side and having them separated a little longer is better?
Perhaps there was an area of local turbulence that became visible at higher speeds than are achievable in the wind tunnel, filling that area (and removing the ‘blocking’ characteristics of it) could improve flow with little harm at lower speeds.
It ALMOST looks like an attempt at a central strake….
Reducing the volum of the diffuser will stall the underside much quicker/starts porpoising/jumping much sooner/at lower speed.

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The vanes at the front if the floor influence the expansion ratio. The vanes divert some out outwards. So this us a way you can make the inlet smaller.
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Ferrari: the mini flaps of the brake duct help traction

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https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... content=it

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 15:51
The vanes at the front if the floor influence the expansion ratio. The vanes divert some out outwards. So this us a way you can make the inlet smaller.
Agree. The vanes at the at the front of the floor might be intended to 'influence' the expantion ratio, by diverting some of the air rushing in outwards. diverting some of the air rushing in outwards and away from inlet will produce the same effect as that of reducing the inlet without touching the inlet volum. same effect will be had/reached by expanding the outlet volum. it is a sort of 'calibrating' how powerful the effect of sucking the car down to the ground is to best suite the overall car aero design and set-up. The banned 'trick' hydraulic suspension system would have solved everybody's porpoising problems with added benefits of having a variable rate of suspensdion springing stifness. On a different note. Have mercedes after only three races already lost hope of inproving their chassis ills to exeptable levels by introducing a 'B' specifiction car. and if these remours are right, how is it possible to do so under the budged cap?.

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GrrG wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 16:17
Ferrari: the mini flaps of the brake duct help traction

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... tail-1.jpg

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... content=it
Wow, these are basically feathers for inverse flight. :)
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Looks like they make following more difficult. The brake appendages of all teams are likely to be the next target of the FIA.

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Gearbox and rear suspension.

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The rear wing on the F1-75 is very small compared with just about about everyone. The low drag of the car is going to be really seen in tracks like Imola.


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dialtone wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 21:07


The rear wing on the F1-75 is very small compared with just about about everyone. The low drag of the car is going to be really seen in tracks like Imola.


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I think it is small only at the extremities, not that small in the center. In all the past races Ferrari had a bigger rear wing than Red Bull and I do not see it changing until they change something relatively big in the rest of the car.

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