Red Bull RB9 Renault

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Isnt the cars built so that this thing shouldnt happen, i mean a crash and then big fire, to me it didnt feel OK, but i guess Sutil just hit him rly bad cause we have had bigger impacts but no fires so...

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That´s one tight ass. Excuse the language.
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Ironically Webber is the one who convinces me, this car is just plain fast, no trickery or gimmicks.
Alonso finished down in sixth and he admits Red Bull's RB9 was in a class of its own while he was struggling in his Ferrari.

"Obviously it's not a surprise anymore," Alonso said. "It's not frustrating or surprising you on Sunday. The place where [Mark] Webber overtook me at Turn 6 we need to have another category of car because if not it's impossible to do Turn 4, Turn 5 behind another car and be side-by-side. This is super performance and they deserve it, they are the best ones at the moment, they are winning everything and we have to do better."
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Huntresa wrote:Isnt the cars built so that this thing shouldnt happen, i mean a crash and then big fire, to me it didnt feel OK, but i guess Sutil just hit him rly bad cause we have had bigger impacts but no fires so...
Not catching fire is not really a design consideration, except when it's about fuel, where the fuel tanks are flexible volumes within the monocoque. It's quite obvious that the amount of gasoline is much more hazardous than an oil or water leak. Basically, a minor manufacturing issue on an oil radiator could cause the same issue as here when Sutil hit Webber.

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That's a very big gap there in the diffuser. Look to the left of the wheel in the shadow of the brake duct element.
I can imagine the strakes also push the exhaust into the center of the diffuser.
For all we know they could be using coando in two planes. Coanda from the side pods, and coando on the inside strake to further curve the flow into that big gap we see there.
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A massive unused flo-vis. :mrgreen:

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I thought it was very noticeable that the rb9 is able to run much more rake than the others still.
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djos wrote:I thought it was very noticeable that the rb9 is able to run much more rake than the others still.
They started with this massive rake at Singapore and continued here, before that it wasnt this massive.

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Huntresa wrote:
djos wrote:I thought it was very noticeable that the rb9 is able to run much more rake than the others still.
They started with this massive rake at Singapore and continued here, before that it wasnt this massive.
Yeah it's obvious they've really got their exhaust blowing working very well again despite the FIA's meddling!
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ringo wrote:Ironically Webber is the one who convinces me, this car is just plain fast, no trickery or gimmicks.
How do you define gimmicks/trickery?
There were few detail changes since mid season and the car emerges as a class of its own. We also see Sauber making a leap in performance while Force Indias slipping down in rankings.
I just don't really get what "plain" means in this context.

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timbo wrote:
ringo wrote:Ironically Webber is the one who convinces me, this car is just plain fast, no trickery or gimmicks.
How do you define gimmicks/trickery?
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the T-tray (on the thermal camera videos )touches the ground
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I doubt that that is giving the heat signature. It has been doing this in both singapore and korea, during both qualies and both races, from the start to the end. If you rub your t-tray all race long you are going to get an illegal car which has too much wear on its plank. It also could lead to boundary layer build up behind it due air unable to pass under the tray, stalling the floor.

Also notice the heat signature has this given shape, pattern. They have something intalled/integrating that is giving off heat.
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turbof1 wrote:Also notice the heat signature has this given shape, pattern. They have something intalled/integrating that is giving off heat.
Oil cooler - most of them run an oil/fluid cooler here, for COG purposes obviously.