Honda motorsport boss Yasuhisa Arai has claimed that it is unfair the engine maker is receiving all criticism and has rebuked doubts that the Japanese firm could make enough of a step forward over the next winter to become competitive.
Well that could mean they have updates ready to go on the car but have refrained from using them due to the problems with the Honda power unit. If Honda have fixed them ? I guess we'll find out relatively shortly how good the MP4-30 is.multisync wrote:Strange as I heard the chassis and areo updates available to Mac's was capable of an additional 1-2 secs per lap with the 'right' engine power so for him to say it's behind the curve is strange
In Hungary they were pretty close, and even McLaren people said several times the aero package still need a lot of development, and even recognized their problems are not only PU related. OTOH Red Bull and STR both have strong aero packages, so I don´t think the statement is so bold.Jef Patat wrote:Is that Honda knocking themselves on the chest and blaming McLaren for the first time? If the engine is better than Renault then MCL-Honda should be better than Red Bull and Torro Rosso?
Sounds like that, our engine is better so must be the car. The beauty of motorsport is no matter what you say, the track will put you in your placetaperoo2k wrote:Well that could mean they have updates ready to go on the car but have refrained from using them due to the problems with the Honda power unit. If Honda have fixed them ? I guess we'll find out relatively shortly how good the MP4-30 is.multisync wrote:Strange as I heard the chassis and areo updates available to Mac's was capable of an additional 1-2 secs per lap with the 'right' engine power so for him to say it's behind the curve is strange
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Arai is saying there is a big gap between the McLaren chassis and the RB chassis, in the other side we have Ron Dennis and Bullier saying the chassis is one of the best, not sure what to think about Arai's words. To me looks like he is trying to justifyn why RB is getting better results than McLaren, and he clearly said the problem is the chassis and not the "superior" Honda engine.adrianjordan wrote:The way I read it was that, because the engines have been tuned down, the aero and chassis haven't been fully tuned. Also that they are still suffering due to the hampered running in winter testing.
Not so much blaming Mclaren as simply explaining where they are and why...
And Button, in the same interview he did reckon the aero was painfull at the start of the season with loads of understeer, so I´ll take his word better than Arai´s one when talking about something he does not manufacture or drive.f1universe wrote: in the other side we have Ron Dennis and Bullier saying the chassis is one of the best
The total output power maybe higher than the renault, but that does not mean the driveability & the mapping is better and it makes a big difference.f1universe wrote:Sounds like that, our engine is better so must be the car. The beauty of motorsport is no matter what you say, the track will put you in your placetaperoo2k wrote:Well that could mean they have updates ready to go on the car but have refrained from using them due to the problems with the Honda power unit. If Honda have fixed them ? I guess we'll find out relatively shortly how good the MP4-30 is.multisync wrote:Strange as I heard the chassis and areo updates available to Mac's was capable of an additional 1-2 secs per lap with the 'right' engine power so for him to say it's behind the curve is strange
Interesting thoughts"The key thing that has hit Honda is that power, reliability, and fuel consumption are, with these engines, effectively all the same thing," explains Brundle. "You have to have all three and if you don’t get the combustion right then you don’t have power, fuel efficiency or reliability. But the upside of that is that if they do get it right, then there will be big gains.”
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This means they will not be running at full power“Honda has updated our combustion characteristics to further improve our power units for Spa and the second half of the season,” said Honda's motorsport boss Yasuhisa Arai. “This weekend's free practices will be important to test the pairing of the power units to the cars.
The Belgian race, however, will surely be a difficult one for the team and drivers, with expected grid penalties and a long and unforgiving power circuit.
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It does not, it merely means the drivers, Honda engineers and McLaren will have a lot to do in terms of how the increased power effects the cars handling and other technical issues that may develop. As far as the power goes ? It's about getting the power unit to work to the point where you can run it at peak efficiency, so you have predictable power delivery, energy recovery and reliability etc. I doubt even Mercedes run their power unit at it's ultimate power level.mclaren111 wrote:This means they will not be running at full power“Honda has updated our combustion characteristics to further improve our power units for Spa and the second half of the season,” said Honda's motorsport boss Yasuhisa Arai. “This weekend's free practices will be important to test the pairing of the power units to the cars.
The Belgian race, however, will surely be a difficult one for the team and drivers, with expected grid penalties and a long and unforgiving power circuit.
