Whats wrong with JV

[Spencifer_Murphy]

JV never truly out performed Damon Hill at Williams in 96. Hill was definately in the right place at the right time....but then so was Jacques. I'm a fan of Hill...he was good...very good, but no GREAT. And Jacques was nothing compared. Then he wins WDC in 97....big deal, the williems that year was even more dominate then in 1997, it just didn't seem quite so good cos JV and HHF was drving it, even HHF got a few decent performances in the bag. Then williams lost pace in 1998 and it went downhill for both of them. He goes to BAR and tries to do a Schumi.....thing is Schumi pulled it off at Ferrari cos:
1. He was respected at Benetton and so brought some Key Players with him
2. He has good people management skills

JV has/had neither of these. He couldn't bring any solid prove key backroom people with him from Williams cos nobody really liked him and nobody really thought we was great (like schuey). And secondly the grumpy sod has the WORST team personel management skills imaginable...he likes annoying people. He comes to sauber and in ONE DAY asks for the antenna's on the nose to be moved, asks for the steering wheel to have its layout changes, wants only one gearshift paddle and then wants the windsheild made bigger by 2mm.....HOW TRIVIAL CAN YOU GET?!

Neway...at BAR he does sod all.....he leaves and suddenly the team moral picks up and they start really performing. Comes back at Renault and can't keep up, now in the Sauber he can't even keep it on the road. What ever he had in 97 he has now lost. Face it Jacques....you're getting old.

He was good, not a great like his dad...just good. But even thats gone now...he's just getting too old for this game. He's past his peak. Schumi certainly isnt, DC's proving at RBR he certainly isnt, Fisi is also showing he's still got pace with a bit of experience. JV however has lost it. He peaked early in his career....he is now old. He should retire at the end of this year and look back at some of the better days in his career in the states and in 97....

....Bus Pass anyone??? lol

[DaveKillens]

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[Steven]

god dam**** how do they think to get Jacques confident in his car when he is replaced during testing?
It's bad for his morale and can't do anything he should be able to do

I still fully support Jacques, I'm sure he can do great things. He's blistering fast given a car he can fully thrust (I think he proved that before) and a team where he is sure of support. That wasn't the case anymore at BAR, and now apparently not much better at Sauber

[Steven]

I think he was never that good to start with:

96 - Nearly beat Hill... big deal - Hill was the ultimate in right place, right time
97 - Nearly threw away WDC in the dominant car of the field
98 - Probably his best year in F1... got some decent performances out of the williams
99 - First of the BAR years... some reasonable quali performances but finished nowhere - zonta was crap so cannot be compared
00 - Ditto the above
01 - same old, same old - only it was the journeyman panis (never the same driver after breaking his legs in Montreal '97) - by the way, zonta raced at least once (maybe twice?) for jordan this year - trulli outqualified him by 2 seconds at Hockenheim (I think - memory rusty though)
02 - same as before, nothing special
03 - Beaten by Button
04 - AWOL
05 - Currently getting shown the way home by Massa, who has previously been stuffed by Heidfield and Fisichella

Lol.. think about it:
1996: almost beat hill, was in the running until the last GP I think until his wheel ran off his car . Hill had tons of experience so that's pretty good racing from Jacques if you ask me. Pole in first F1 race, brilliant!
1997: simply good, lots better than Frentzen and also better than an underrated Ferrari (what's the big deal, when you see a slow schumacher he's driving a bad car??? Don't make me laugh)
1998-2002: Consistently better than teammate
2003: Bad first half of the season (problems with Richards by then) and suffered more technical DNF's than Button (can't blame him)

So here we are... give him some time he's really one of the most respectable people I have ever seen in F1

[bcsolutions]

I hear that his manager is looking away from F1 and trying to find him a drive in another racing series. Not exactly a committed and dedicated F1 driver anymore then?

[jaslfc]

I hope jv gets his act together and finish this season with a few good results.. I think luck is not on his side. If DC didnt hit him he would have got 8th position and there will be less pressure on him. BTW what happen to all of saubers money!! I know red bull left but until they cannot test their car. If i am not mistaken this is their first test since the season started.

[walter]

JV definetly doesnt look too good this season, but he didnt look great a few seasons before that either. HOWEVER! last season everyone thought that DC was on his way to his recliner, but now he's kicking some serious ass(good car or not?). Massa definnetly deserves that seat more than JV. time to come to reality and put the pipe dreams away about JV.

[West]

I hear that his manager is looking away from F1 and trying to find him a drive in another racing series. Not exactly a committed and dedicated F1 driver anymore then?

Pollock is probably bitter about getting kicked out of BAR...