No German GP next year?

[JimClarkFan]

British GP (Silverstone)
Belgium GP (Spa)
German GP (Hockenheim)
Italian GP (Monzo)
Monaco GP

should all be manditory GPs given their respective histories in the sport, I believe suzuka should be there as well but it doesn't have the same history. If there are 20 races per season, with 5/6 locked in then that leave 14/15 races which are up for grabs.

[beelsebob]

British GP (Silverstone)
Belgium GP (Spa)
German GP (Hockenheim)
Italian GP (Monzo)
Monaco GP

should all be manditory GPs given their respective histories in the sport, I believe suzuka should be there as well but it doesn't have the same history. If there are 20 races per season, with 5/6 locked in then that leave 14/15 races which are up for grabs.

You could also make a strong argument for Interlagos being on the list given that we've had a GP there every year since 1972.

[WhiteBlue]

Currently I havn't the time to google the source of the report about the FiA having a veto on the number of the European races. But I clearly remember those reports. I'm positive that Joe Saward was one of them. And I will easily find them if necessary. I suggest we rather get back on topic and what people think of the prospect of further limiting the traditional European races.

[bhall]

Currently I havn't the time to google the source of the report about the FiA having a veto on the number of the European races. But I clearly remember those reports. I'm positive that Joe Saward was one of them. And I will easily find them if necessary. I suggest we rather get back on topic and what people think of the prospect of further limiting the traditional European races.

I'm having a considerable amount of trouble with this. For clarity's sake: Are you suggesting that we stop talking about the number of European races in the Championship so that we may focus on the number of European races in the Championship?

[WhiteBlue]

I'm having no problems with your lack of clarity. In my view the issue here is about the heritage and importance of some European GPs and markets to F1. Britain, Italy, Germany and France have been instrumental for more than a hundred years of GP racing and automotive technology. The tradition exceeds even F1 which was was only founded in 1950! Those countries supported open wheel GP racing more than three decades prior Formula 1! I acknowledge that F1 must represent the Americas, Asia and Arabia but it should not for profit's sake turn their back to their roots and their most supportive markets. That is really the point I was trying to make.

[bhall]

You don't have to make up something to make a point, though. That's my issue (as usual).

And if you tear ass in a crowded room, don't be surprised when somebody asks, "Who farted?"

Oddly enough, I actually agree with you about the way things should be. It's senseless for an enterprise to move further and further away from what would seem to be its core customers. But, just because something is senseless doesn't mean it won't happen.

The paradigm has shifted in Formula One. Because FOM contracts are in no way tied to attendance figures, the promoters/circuits are now F1's principle customers, not fans. Until that changes, grands prix will continue to migrate to the highest bidders regardless of any lack of a local, or even regional, F1 fan base.

As I said before, the only sacred cow in this game gets its race for free. Everyone else will pay dearly.

[Cam]

The paradigm has shifted in Formula One. Because FOM contracts are in no way tied to attendance figures, the promoters/circuits are now F1's principle customers, not fans.

=D> could not have worded that any finer. Spot on.

I wonder if the fans will or can, actually take back their sport. It's the fans that turn up on race day and pay ticket prices and watch the TV feeds, so ultimately they have the power to force change, they just don't realise it. Imagine fans doing a Jackie Stewart and boycotting races...... change would come thick and fast one would expect.

[WhiteBlue]

The Americas are probably big enough to have five or six grands prix. We’re trying to get something sorted out in New Jersey/New York, we’ve had a lot of requests. Maybe we can do something in LA (Los Angeles) in the future.

Considering that Russia is coming in 2014 it looks like they will have to do more than 20 races pretty soon.

[clipsy1H]

guys at the moment the most important driver is German so how do you think Bernie will remove??? think about how people will react if in Michael era someone will replaced his home grand prix?

[banibhusan]

Bernie doesn't care about all this..The only thing that matters is the revenues. As long as he gets what he wants from the German GP, he'll be happy to send the F1 circus to Germany. IMO, apart from Monaco, all other circuits face the threat of being dumped sooner or later if they don't pay the hosting fee to Bernie.

[WhiteBlue]

From the latest news it sounds like there is no intention to dump the race. It is more a question of Nürburgring getting their act together so that Bernie will not start negotiating with Hockenheim. If that is true we could be waiting for some more month before things become clearer.