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JoaoB wrote:I think this Rosberg-bad-guy thing is realy unfair.
If you look at the record of each driver, Hamilton is a much harder (or even harsher) driver then Rosberg.
Normaly it's Hamilton the pushes others to the limit-decision of keeping the car where it is and having contact or giving the space away to avoid the crash and Rosberg usualy is the guy that brakes or steers off to avoid the crash.
But not this time and probably not ever again with Hamilton... I think that was the point that he wanted to show.
My first post...
I agree! That is just on-track. Off the track, he maneuvers a fair bit too. Between the two of them, hands down, i will say that Rosberg is a whole lot more tolerable, and i found his behaviour far more acceptable than Hamilton both on and off track. His free pass to Hamilton at Monaco on accusations of cheating, and upbringing and hunger etc., it was just as classy as they come.
I agree. It's fair to point that from 2010 to 2013 Hamilton looked to be a lot better off the track then before. As the pressure builds this season, he looks to be loosing his temper again.
JoaoB wrote:As the pressure builds this season, he looks to be loosing his temper again.
We must be watching completely different seasons then.
If anything he´s the calm guy in the team.
I have to disagree. Nico Rosberg has shown this year that he is anything but calm when he isn't leading. Just look at Spa; he gets overtaken and responds by trying a desperate move down the outside of Hamilton on lap 2. A driver like Button or Alonso would have a least waited for Hamilton's tyres to drop off.
Also if you look at his body language when he comes second to Lewis, he can see a lot of anger in his face and it seems to be more directed at Lewis rather than himself. If anything, this year has really shown the type of driver Rosberg is, impatient and unable to control his anger on-track when things aren't going his way.
And suddenly I realised that I was no longer driving the car consciously. I was driving it by a kind of instinct, only I was in a different dimension. Ayrton Senna
JoaoB wrote:As the pressure builds this season, he looks to be loosing his temper again.
We must be watching completely different seasons then.
If anything he´s the calm guy in the team.
I have to disagree. Nico Rosberg has shown this year that he is anything but calm when he isn't leading. Just look at Spa; he gets overtaken and responds by trying a desperate move down the outside of Hamilton on lap 2. A driver like Button or Alonso would have a least waited for Hamilton's tyres to drop off.
Also if you look at his body language when he comes second to Lewis, he can see a lot of anger in his face and it seems to be more directed at Lewis rather than himself. If anything, this year has really shown the type of driver Rosberg is, impatient and unable to control his anger on-track when things aren't going his way.
He didn't need to wait for tires. He could have screamed straight past one lap later with the DRS. Nico screwed up big time. He could have won at spa.
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SilverArrow10 wrote:I have to disagree. Nico Rosberg has shown this year that he is anything but calm when he isn't leading.
Actually you agree , SectorOne is quoting JoaoB and responding with the fact that Hamilton is the calm guy this season.
I think there is a difference in reactions in interviews and on-track actions. Hamilton looks a bit forced-cold in interviews, you could read anger into that, but he manages to hide it quite well. It seems to have no effect on his driving, I haven't seen weird mistakes from Hamilton on-track yet. Rosberg seems more composed in interviews (at least to me it looks more natural), but on track he does things like the Monaco incident.
SilverArrow10 wrote:I have to disagree. Nico Rosberg has shown this year that he is anything but calm when he isn't leading.
Actually you agree , SectorOne is quoting JoaoB and responding with the fact that Hamilton is the calm guy this season.
I think there is a difference in reactions in interviews and on-track actions. Hamilton looks a bit forced-cold in interviews, you could read anger into that, but he manages to hide it quite well. It seems to have no effect on his driving, I haven't seen weird mistakes from Hamilton on-track yet. Rosberg seems more composed in interviews (at least to me it looks more natural), but on track he does things like the Monaco incident.
And suddenly I realised that I was no longer driving the car consciously. I was driving it by a kind of instinct, only I was in a different dimension. Ayrton Senna
Lets take a look back at some of Rosberg's moves and driving and etiquette. Because all i hear the apolgists say is Nico did the right thing to not yield against Lewis. He Stood his ground bla bla. If we wanna go back in time lets see what Rosberg did to Lewis and both Alonso is Bahrain 2012
Fernando's now classic line 'He pushed me of the track, all the time you have to leave a space' comment originated with that dirty move from Rosberg.
I we wanna argue about Lewis running him wide in Bahrain lets also not conveniently forget what Nico did at the start of the Canadian Gp when He himself ran Lewis wide in T1 this year wich enabled Sebastian to get ahead of lewis in T2.
I still cant believe that despite what information has come out this weekend on what has been said in the post and pre race briefings people still seem to think Nico's intention was not to compromize Lewis's rear tyre. Seeing even Toto whom i considered more on Nico's side being so critical and Lauda clearly stating Lewis did nothing wrong and it was Rosberg who was to blaim, i still hear people act Rosberg did something good this weekend. As they call it 'He stood his ground' Nico was never in the position to overtake Lewis in that corner and he Lewis left him more than enough space to yield or take the wider line true that corner.
An outside overtake requires you to have got the whole car alongside the lead car (which Rosberg never did). Also, the article states that Rosberg gave Hamilton a choice whether to have the collision or not. I don't think driving into someone from behind is giving them a choice, it's just plain idiotic.
Not only did he cost his team a sure 1-2 he's created bad blood within the team. Being unhappy is one thing but in those cases, as a racer you should beat your opponent on track by skill and not by luck or cheating. (Monaco) Peter Windsor confirming Nico Rosberg cheated in Monaco.
The fact that true F1 fans that actually go the races and spend hundreds of Euro's to see a race live booed him on the spot says enough. Im tired of these so called F1 fans that portray this guy as being in the right when the facts state otherwise. I for one was not surprised he got booed.
Podium booing.
Imo the booing was justified. See how nobody else get booed beside Nico? Wonder why?
I lost all respect for him this weekend and i used to like the guy back in Melbourne.
Lewis post race interview should earn a lot of respect.
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SilverArrow10 wrote:He didn't need to wait for tires. He could have screamed straight past one lap later with the DRS. Nico screwed up big time. He could have won at spa.
Yeah, but then Lewis would have finished 2nd and Nico would only have increased his lead by 7 points. Instead, he increased his lead by 18 points.
If anything comes of the clash, all eyes are going to be on Nico in the coming weeks. The team, the media and general public meaning he will be under much more pressure this time round.
And suddenly I realised that I was no longer driving the car consciously. I was driving it by a kind of instinct, only I was in a different dimension. Ayrton Senna
DisaterX wrote:If anything comes of the clash, all eyes are going to be on Nico in the coming weeks. The team, the media and general public meaning he will be under much more pressure this time round.
It would be hilarious if he started cracking under the pressure and intense focus, that he himself created!
The first post was mildly amusing. The first page had objective posts. However we're now into personalities and psychoanalysis by TV soundbites. Admittedly not as bad as the member who predicted last year that Ricciardo would be unable to cope because he smiles too much.
Anyway, we're into the realms of fanboy ying yang and sane members have been reporting posts from here.
My driver is faster than yours, so there. End of argument.
, SectorOne is quoting JoaoB and responding with the fact that Hamilton is the calm guy this season.