2025 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Oct 3 - 5

[De Wet]

@Basti and @Badger
I will certainly be celebrating if they do it. It’s a huge accomplishment for the team to be back to back WCC considering 2022

Well, they have truly earned it and I sincerely hope they can enjoy and celebrate it.
I myself am quite bored of this season and I fear as others here, that the strange atmosphere will go on.

As a McLaren fan I am enjoying it a lot...

[MB_Racer]

@Basti and @Badger
I will certainly be celebrating if they do it. It’s a huge accomplishment for the team to be back to back WCC considering 2022

Well, they have truly earned it and I sincerely hope they can enjoy and celebrate it.
I myself am quite bored of this season and I fear as others here, that the strange atmosphere will go on.

As a McLaren fan I am enjoying it a lot...

Fully agreed. It is an interesting season with some great races and enjoying most weekends!

[Mogster]

It’s been a good season. OK McLaren have dominated at times, this is F1 and that tends to happen, but a least they have two drivers capable of the WDC and both can be described as genuine generational talents. Behind them it’s been as close than I can remember.

I’m not a Verstappen fan but I wouldn’t mind him winning a couple more to put pressure on McLaren. A WDC decider in Abu Dhabi would be ideal. Any of the 3 are worthy 2025 WDC, I’d prefer a Norris win but that’s just my personal choice.

[Badger]

By all rights it should be a good season given the fight at the front of the standings. But for whatever reason we’ve had very little on track action between McLaren cars. That has made it underwhelming.

[venkyhere]

Customary rear wing pics from Albert Fabrega :

https://x.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1973 ... 59/photo/1

https://x.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1973 ... 27/photo/1

As usual, Redbull going for bigger flap proportion in total frontal area. Interesting to see how Mercedes and RacingBulls have gone for less aggressive flap-edge endplates, while others have them cranked up. On second glance, I think Mercedes has the smallest wing of them all. Anyway these are the 'placeholder wings' for now, might be totally different ones when it's time for Q.

[Vettel165]

My prediction.
Q3
1. Lando
2. Max
3. Leclerc

Race
1. Max
2. Lando
3. Leclerc
4. Russel
5. Piastri
6. Alonso
7. Hamilton

This result would throw an absolute panic into Mclaren garage. If Red Bull nails the setup then I expect Max to might have a shot, otherwise Mclaren might dominate again. But everything is possible in f1. I want to see exciting last 7 races.

[JPower]

This result would throw an absolute panic into Mclaren garage. If Red Bull nails the setup then I expect Max to might have a shot, otherwise Mclaren might dominate again. But everything is possible in f1. I want to see exciting last 7 races.

Would it? While Max winning 3 in a row would point to RBR back to being competitive, McLaren's main task is still done. The WCC is wrapped up and if they haven't already shifted all resources to 2026(highly likely they have), they could do so now.

As far as the WDC goes, coming back from 69 points down is still pretty improbable.

[rbirules]

This result would throw an absolute panic into Mclaren garage. If Red Bull nails the setup then I expect Max to might have a shot, otherwise Mclaren might dominate again. But everything is possible in f1. I want to see exciting last 7 races.

Would it? While Max winning 3 in a row would point to RBR back to being competitive, McLaren's main task is still done. The WCC is wrapped up and if they haven't already shifted all resources to 2026(highly likely they have), they could do so now.

As far as the WDC goes, coming back from 69 points down is still pretty improbable.

Panic might be a bit hyperbolic, but it would certainly continue a worrying trend on the WDC front. Oscar's lead over Max would be down to 54 points (and 17 points over Lando) with the result predicted above, with six race weekends remaining (including three sprints). Before Monza, Max was 104 points behind Oscar.

I think another reason for the hyperbolic hypothesis is that Singapore was a race that McLaren dominated last year (despite Max getting 2nd), if Max is able to win there then, in theory, he should be able to win at just about any of the remaining tracks. At this point it's mostly just wish casting from those that either want to see Max win the WDC and/or just get back into the battle to make the finish to the season more exciting. If Max wins at Singapore then the interest in the remaining races continues to increase, until there's a result that drops him out of the WDC fight. Hopefully with McLaren likely wrapping up the WCC this weekend, and in this scenario Lando cutting into Oscar's lead, the WDC "fight" between the two McLaren drivers will also become more interesting.

[selvam_e2002]

I would say repeat of last year result. Norris will be winning this race.

[FittingMechanics]

Only time when McLaren would panic is if suddenly Mercedes and Ferrari are clearly faster than McLaren. Max being fast means nothing because the gap is too big. Just like Norris last year couldn't catch Max because other teams were still worse than Red Bull, it is the same for McLaren this year.

If McLaren is suddenly 3rd or 4th fastest team, then that would open up the season. But I doubt anyone expects that kind of result. Last two races were unlucky for McLaren.

[Badger]

Only time when McLaren would panic is if suddenly Mercedes and Ferrari are clearly faster than McLaren. Max being fast means nothing because the gap is too big. Just like Norris last year couldn't catch Max because other teams were still worse than Red Bull, it is the same for McLaren this year.

If McLaren is suddenly 3rd or 4th fastest team, then that would open up the season. But I doubt anyone expects that kind of result. Last two races were unlucky for McLaren.

Norris last year had every opportunity to catch precisely because RB wasn’t 2nd fastest on lots of circuits in the second half of the year. Silverstone, Hungary, Belgium, Monza, Baku, USGP, Mexico, Vegas to be exact. And on the tracks they were better than Ferrari and Merc (Zandvoort, Singapore, Sao Paolo, Qatar, Abu Dhabi) the McLaren was still better. Norris just straight up underperformed and didn’t deliver when it mattered.

But I agree in the context of 2025. Any Max chance would require Ferrari and Mercedes to get in between at several of the remaining races, as well as Max delivering of course.

[FittingMechanics]

Max was faster than most of those teams on all of those races. In fact, Max was faster than Piastri on most of those races.

The gap was so small that IIRC Lando lost more points to Piastri than Piastri took off Verstappen.

[Badger]

Max was faster than most of those teams on all of those races. In fact, Max was faster than Piastri on most of those races.

The gap was so small that IIRC Lando lost more points to Piastri than Piastri took off Verstappen.

I recall these races very well and I stand by my comment. There were Ferrari and/or Mercedes cars ahead of the RB on pure pace in those 8 races I listed. I don’t know where you are getting your information.

[Seanspeed]

but a least they have two drivers capable of the WDC and both can be described as genuine generational talents.

In no way, shape or form. lol

If Norris and Piastri are 'generational talents', then that term doesn't mean anything anymore. I mean, they had the fastest car last year and Max still beat them convincingly. Even this year, both have had far too many instances where they're simply not taking advantage of having a dominant car like a proper top talent would.

[Sergej]

clown moment by Ferrari garage, is that a grid penalty ?