Ferrari Project 678 Speculation Thread

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Badger wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 20:35
MattLightBlue wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 19:55
Badger wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 16:17

Wasn't this the same rumour that was debunked before? Why would you need a stronger/heavier alloy for an engine where the compression ratio will be lower?
Come on guys, we are better than in this on this forum. Stop with the compression ratio BS, even if true it is not the only factor at play for developing engines.
Increasing combustion chamber temperature and mep (i.e. mean effective pressure) are other ways for improving power and efficiency of an engine.
Come on you. The FIA lowered the compression ratio from 18:1 to 16:1 for 2026, on the face of it that doesn't necessitate a change to a much denser and more durable piston material. Quite the opposite.
What if it is a way to keep the temperature higher in the combustion chamber? You can also increase the pressure by acting on turbo operation, not only due to cr.
What I am saying is that I did some work for them that hinted in the steel direction, but not as described in the article.

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bluechris wrote:
15 Dec 2025, 19:42
bauc wrote:
15 Dec 2025, 17:41
matteosc wrote:
15 Dec 2025, 17:21

Actually Ferrari is usually one of the top 3 teams, with some notable exception. Sometimes first, very often second, a few times third, almost never last.
It was a metaphor of their mentality, not their actual results, they only care of winning nothing else matters, and often they are their own biggest enemy.
This is correct, but there are caveats about being the biggest team in F1. The pressure is huge, and lately they cannot handle it. If we had Toto all could have been great. The man could sell fish saying it is pork and everyone would believe him.
It's crazy to think that Toto would magically solve all of Ferrari's problems. lol

I dont see any indication Ferrari cant handle the pressure. They just need to build a better car.

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MattLightBlue wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 21:04
Badger wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 20:35
MattLightBlue wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 19:55


Come on guys, we are better than in this on this forum. Stop with the compression ratio BS, even if true it is not the only factor at play for developing engines.
Increasing combustion chamber temperature and mep (i.e. mean effective pressure) are other ways for improving power and efficiency of an engine.
Come on you. The FIA lowered the compression ratio from 18:1 to 16:1 for 2026, on the face of it that doesn't necessitate a change to a much denser and more durable piston material. Quite the opposite.
What if it is a way to keep the temperature higher in the combustion chamber? You can also increase the pressure by acting on turbo operation, not only due to cr.
What I am saying is that I did some work for them that hinted in the steel direction, but not as described in the article.
Knock becomes an issue well before steels higher melting point becomes beneficial. And typically for that, aluminium's heat rejection properties brings more overhead.

Turbo peak boost pressure is limited to 4.8 bar if I'm not mistaken. Same boost, lower geometric compression, very much points to lower peak cylinder pressures. I personally don't see why they'd move to steel. Then again, I'm not in Maranello. I do however expect to see an aluminium head the moment the covers are dropped.