Pointless academic titles/degrees

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Ray
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Joined: 22 Nov 2006, 06:33
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The thing that gets me is that about 90% of my friends who attended college are dumber than they went in. I mean they seriously have no concept of how the real world works. They think that they'll get a free pass and come straight out of college making 50k a year. Hell, I've got five years of military experience, in a highly technical field no less, and I couldn't get a job at a Best Buy around the corner from my house. I make just under 23 thou a year and I have a pretty good skill set. Not that everyone goes to college and is that way, just seems everyone I know thinks they are going to be ultra successful just by studying liberal arts or something like that.

Course I'm the smartest guy in the world too. :lol:

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I am probably one of those guys you talk about (thought would get a job straight out of college); fortunately, I found work in the aerospace industry (not engineering-related tho). Dunno if I'm dumber than I went in, but I think I'm forgetting all the engineering stuff I learned.
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Chief Operating Officer responsable for Human Mobility = Janitor :lol:

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jddh1
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Joined: 29 Jan 2007, 05:30
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@ checkered: Beauty and the Geek is freaking hilarious. That show cracks me up everytime.

@ kurtiejjj: Yes, the REAL reality beauty and the geek show happens on pitlanes every racing weekend, be it on four, two or zero wheels (boats).

@ MrT: I was gonna do a PhD on Computational Dynamics also, but after I realized that I could learn the same things on my own, I decided to just finish my Masters and get a job in the field. At least I'll make money.

But seriously, if you're good at something, you don't need any freaking degree. Sure it helps earlier if you have that Masters or PhD, but dedication and skill is going to take one further than that starting position. My PhD friends are smart alright but for some cannot change a tire to save their life.

Carlos
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Joined: 02 Sep 2006, 19:43
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I support both advanced degrees and a practical application portfolio - heavily accentuating design/work documentation of actual projects ( complying with past/present workplace contracts) or research into realworld solutions/ applications pursued on an independent basis - I am retired - if I was to begin a career path; I would combine credentials with application. I have found my lack of degrees have severely undermined my actual performance and production in almost every corporate enviornment in my 30 year plus worklife. Now I am retired. Combining both would have led to more satisfaction in the workplace and a much more financially sucessful situation. The problem is establishing credentails and practical experience. Human Resourses prefer shortcuts to assesment - ie degrees - interviewers and supervisors appreciate a practical performanc portfolio - career progress/politics depends on both - a lot of solutions by "ordinary workers" on the factory floor are exploited ... well ... stolen - by those higher up in the "food chain" - human nature is a mixed blessing - self interest is often without characteristics that can be admired. It has been the exception that workplace populations behave with virtue and character - at least in my experience. Most individuals will exhibit reprehensible behaviour to increase a salary or to eliminate those that exhibit more competence, innovation or a better work ethic - in my experience of 30 plus years in the workplace. Just experince garnered from real life.

Back to topic - an aquaintance - took a Bachelor of Library Science in the 1970's at The University of Windsor - one of the lowest rated Universities in Canada - in fact it refuses to take part in any rating system of standing - citing "faulty methodology" ( note dissaproval and sarcasm) he earns over $75,000 a year. I have never noticed that the position produced stress or anxiety - he head's a small library system in rural Ontario. But then again - another aquaintance took a PHD in Physcology - his thesis was on male /female preference and competence corncerning " guitar solo improvision" - he ended up with a salary exceeding $100,000 in the Ontario Penal System. Go Figure :roll:

A third aquaintanece is a Cerified Flight Mechanic - airplane maintenance - because he refuses to falsify maintenance reports - saving manhours and costs - he has been employed sporatically. For our younger Forum members - make a point of studying " The Real World."

The world, life and employment can be both absurd and sublime. :wink:
But of course fairness and justice do exist in many workplaces. :D