Toro Rosso STR4

[timbo]

have the other teams had someone else design their for them?

I believe McLaren uses system made by Bosch.

[ESPImperium]

RB developed their own system of KERS, but then scrapped it as they deemed it unrelyable and not up to the job, a reported £30 Million went into the RB system before they opted for (and effectivly put £30 Million down the plug hole that could have gone into other R&D elsewhere on the car) the Renault/Magnetti system. However, STR decided from the outset to go with the Ferarri/Magnetti KERS system.

Both the Renault/Magnetti and Ferarri/Magnetti systems are very simmilar, the only diffrences that they seemingly have is diffrent gearings to the motor and a slightly diffrent control mechanism, but the diffrences are minamal as all 5 companys (RB/STR/Ferarri/Renault/Magnetti-Marenelli) have been pulling resources together to cut their costs down.

[Scania]

have the other teams had someone else design their for them?

They can buy Flybrid

[Conceptual]

RB developed their own system of KERS, but then scrapped it as they deemed it unrelyable and not up to the job, a reported £30 Million went into the RB system before they opted for (and effectivly put £30 Million down the plug hole that could have gone into other R&D elsewhere on the car) the Renault/Magnetti system. However, STR decided from the outset to go with the Ferarri/Magnetti KERS system.

Both the Renault/Magnetti and Ferarri/Magnetti systems are very simmilar, the only diffrences that they seemingly have is diffrent gearings to the motor and a slightly diffrent control mechanism, but the diffrences are minamal as all 5 companys (RB/STR/Ferarri/Renault/Magnetti-Marenelli) have been pulling resources together to cut their costs down.

This is exactly the type of co-development that I have been talking about for months (and getting beef for as well I might add).

I still see alot of this stuff in the future, especially with the gearbox, KERS, monocoque, and possibly wheel uprights/brakes.

Competition breeds perfection, but cooperation matures it!

[modbaraban]

Competition breeds perfection, but cooperation matures it!

Aren't we here to watch the competition?

The above ideas were said years ago my Max prancing arse Mosley as a cheaper way of creating the same sort of circus.

It's sad.

[ISLAMATRON]

how the hell is perfection matured? is that like great cheese being aged?

[imightbewrong]

The new car:

[axle]

Still a pullrod...balaclava for one.

Can't really see any major differences from the RB5 at launch...

[xpensive]

Is it just me, or is the STR4 exhaust located slightly different from the RBR? Protective shroud looks identical though.

[axle]

Is it just me, or is the STR4 exhaust located slightly different from the RBR? Protective shroud looks identical though.

I thought that too, but on inspection it's ever-so close...there is likely to be some variation, but it really isn't a big difference.

[xpensive]

Big enough to rob me of that balaclava though.

[axle]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73624

Why deny it's an RB5 with a different engine in it? Does he think we're blind?

[Shaddock]

I can't believe it's taken this long to just to paint the RB5 in a different livery.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Sidepod inlets look smaller...

EDIT: Second thoughts it's just the paint job. They are just as amazingly small on the RBR. And whats all this balaclava BS?

[axle]

Sidepod inlets look smaller...

EDIT: Second thoughts it's just the paint job. They are just as amazingly small on the RBR. And whats all this balaclava BS?

Balaclava, It's a forum joke - Xpensive said he'd eat one if "Honda" made it to Oz...people picked up on that and made a running joke out of it.

I can't remember who but some were predicting that the STR4 wouldn't be PullRod like the RB5 (no idea why they thought that). Hence my Balaclava comment.