Canada back? Spa skipping?

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djos wrote:
adam2007 wrote:keep spa get rid off tracks like melbourne its so boring, barcalona is boring aswell
I agree, bring the Aussie GP back to Adelaide! [-o<
Yes i definately agree with that, its so boring here in Adelaide. There is absolutely nothing to do besides V8 Supercars.

I was only a kid when F1 was here, i asked my parents about it, my Mum was in College, she said they were so loud! She couldn't study :mrgreen:

I always get a bit emotional when i drive on those ex-F1 street-circuit roads, looking down at the fainly coloured, rain-eroded curbs :cry: Hopefully one day they will return to be used again [-o<

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Montreal back is definitely great news. This track is nice and provides good races. And nice for the manufactures.
And I don't like the idea of skipping Spa. It's a nice track, the driver love it and the races are fun.
There're other races to drop like Barcelona or Hungary.
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Its statements like this that make me want to personally assassinate this guy. German GP, and Spa every second year is an absolut joke. How can you do that with events with so much History and character, literally a blade of grass in the paddocks of those places has more history and character than many of the new circuits put together.

I would say that a few circuits that are a must;

Nurburgring
Hockenheimring
Spa
Monza
Silverstone
Monaco

In my opinion F1 should be mostly an european-based season.

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lkocev wrote:In my opinion F1 should be mostly an european-based season.
I partly agree. On the one hand, it's a world championship. Thus, I'd say that at least 5-6 oversea races should be in the calendar. On the other hand, it's kinda senseless to host a GP when nobody will attend like Istanbul this year. And I guess there weren't that many people in Shanghai, were there?
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As a former Montrealer, lived there in 1993 and saw the race that year, you are describing my sentiments precisely, DK.
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lkocev wrote:Its statements like this that make me want to personally assassinate this guy. German GP, and Spa every second year is an absolut joke. How can you do that with events with so much History and character, literally a blade of grass in the paddocks of those places has more history and character than many of the new circuits put together.

I would say that a few circuits that are a must;

Nurburgring
Hockenheimring
Spa
Monza
Silverstone
Monaco

In my opinion F1 should be mostly an european-based season.
Mostly, yes, I agree.

But i'd like to add to the list Adelaide, Montreal and Brazil.

Also, as much as I don't like Singapore, it seems so far that it might turn out to be a special race every year considering it's been run at night. But can we get some HD for the races though?

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lkocev wrote:
In my opinion F1 should be mostly an european-based season.
No.

I think you have no idea about the circuits that are arround the world -out of Europe- where F1 would be breath taking / astonishing.

Still, the circuits you mention should be in the calendar. Im glad Imola is out. Hungaroring should be out, the same as Barcelona.
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No more than half the races should be in europe, but as it stands there are no races i North America, Africa, or India, three huge parts of the world... so it definatly not yet a "World championship"... imagine a world cup without the participation of any of those three places.

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North America needs some races, however Africa and India have neither motorsport history, public interest in motorsport or appropriate facilities. No country in Africa would get an attendance like Silverstone or Monza.

In my opinion, the following GPs should be considered undroppable

UK (Preferably at Silverstone)
Monaco (there's only one realistic venue)
United States (Indianapolis could be used, but the LA market might be an idea)
Belgium (non-negotiably at Spa)
France
Italy (non-negotiably at Monza)
Germany (Preferably at Nurburgring unless a better venue is proposed)
Japan (commercially important, preferably at Suzuka)

The order of the first six of those eight might be familiar. With the exception of the exclusion of Switzerland, it's the 1950 calendar ;) Getting rid of these events would be like horse racing removing the Grand National or the tennis authorities replacing Wimbledon with a tournament in the middle of nowhere, where the locals think the players are supposed to club each other around the head with the racquets.

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India has more people than all of Europe, to say they would not draw a crowd is absurd, especially now with a team called Force India

Its amazing how F1 was so interested in a South Africa GP when apartheid was in effect but even after the devils were taken out of power F1 never really went back. I dont remember a problem with drawing crowds at Kyalami when most of the populous was banned.

A race in Cairo would draw much bigger crowds than either of the places you mentioned if the ticket prices were within reason.

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Dukeage wrote:however Africa and India have neither motorsport history, public interest in motorsport or appropriate facilities. No country in Africa would get an attendance like Silverstone or Monza.
So theres no history in Kyalami or even Killarney or Welkom (ok, MotoGP- but it's still a good track)?

Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. South Africa hosted Grands Prix in the 30s, and then from the 60s on. They say that the old Kyalami was an awesome track. To say that there's no history there, or indeed public interest, is a little narrow minded.

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australian gp at mount panorama would be good, but has no chance of getting it due to it not being located near a major city. hamilton island could be a possible alternative site for aussie gp although a circuit will need to be built - probs using part of the airports runway. although it is a bit isolated (even though it does have a largish airport) it might actually work in a gimmicky sort of way - the trophy could be shaped like a piece of coral and fish

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ISLAMATRON wrote:India has more people than all of Europe, to say they would not draw a crowd is absurd, especially now with a team called Force India

Its amazing how F1 was so interested in a South Africa GP when apartheid was in effect but even after the devils were taken out of power F1 never really went back. I dont remember a problem with drawing crowds at Kyalami when most of the populous was banned.

A race in Cairo would draw much bigger crowds than either of the places you mentioned if the ticket prices were within reason.
It's clearly obvious you have no idea of what you understand is the world of sport and what applies where - the Indian public couldn't give a --- about F1 full stop - cricket another story - the biggest betting operation on the globe revolves around their prime sport - cricket - and to the tune of tens of billions USD. Forget all the hype you read about Force India and Mallya's brewing/airline industry influence - yes I'm sure it suits Ecclestones aspirations to place a GP in India (and the dollars extracted from the government) but dont think the general populace will support it - same as China - Shanghai loses tens of millions a year and give away approx 40% of the gate in free tickets - its a dead duck as we say. South Africa - well theres an opportunity to go back to maybe a street circuit in Durban which hosts the A1GP round. As for Cairo or the Mediterranean - well maybe but Syracuse wasnt a bad venue :)
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Durbs by the sea :D Lovely. My bro's apartment overlooks the hairpin by the pits. No ticket required for me then!

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All this from the guy who thinks races in both Barcelona and Valencia makes sense.