FIA to look at a 28 car grid....

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Why should anyone have faith in an FIA that carries on a "deliberate" selection process and then seems to make up its mind so arbitrarily?
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In 2010 iT can happen what happened in 1994: 28 cars in qualy and 26 in the race. Simple: the last 2 doesnt get to the grid. At those times Pacific drivers used to watch the TV on sundays... #-o


Now I ask: Epsilon Euskadi was left behind... Any team created from twilight to startlight like this Malaysian Lotus is preferred by FIA rather than the Spanish team, that has a factory worthy of a F1 team and with human material such as Viladeprat and Rinland...

Im a Colin Chapman fan and think it will be hard for these "new" Lotus guys to gain my respect.
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i think this is excellent news. we aren't seeing a "new" f1 team persay. this is a collection of highly skilled and highly experienced f1 blokes who happened to be backed by the Malaysian government.

welcome back Mike!

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sticky667 wrote:i think this is excellent news. we aren't seeing a "new" f1 team persay. this is a collection of highly skilled and highly experienced f1 blokes who happened to be backed by the Malaysian government.
What blokes are you talking about? I though so far it's just a name and (perhaps) some money.

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I told you we should've have created the F1 Technical Team. Surely Chad Hurley would've have sponsored us. But no one listens. We could've gone with a Ferrari engine supply promising them to allow a young driver of their choice to drive one of our cars. They would have agreed because they need to develop some young drivers. The other car would be piloted by ME, obviously. We could've the World Championship....well, I could have won the World Championship. 8)

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I recon that its about time we had many cars on the grid to showcase the tallents of the sport.

But one thing is apparant, points system needs a overhaul. Give drivers a chance of scoring a point in the sport.

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raceman wrote:every "notable" figure in F1 says Cosworth engines will require more fuel than the current engine rivals, so they will be carrying more fuel - it will be interesting to see how Cosworth-powered cars will behave in terms of full-race fuel load; might be way back on the grid in qualifying :lol:

Even with the Std. ECU?
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Return to 107% qualifying??? :?:

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ESPImperium wrote:Return to 107% qualifying??? :?:
sure, being 5s slower is dangerous. Should not be allowed

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ESPImperium wrote:Return to 107% qualifying??? :?:

Just take the 24 fastest cars and the others get to spectate.
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I would like more teams. 20 cars is an artificial situation. F1 teams and drivers need to be exposed to competition from the lower ranks on a permanent basis. The new entrants will not be competitive out of the box but look at Brawn and Force India. In a close nit technical world the cars are more equal than ever and the races have been very good lately. 2009 will be seen as a vintage season soon.
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Yea, as a spectator I think more teams can only be good. The only downside to more teams is if you own a current team and are looking to sell.

I don't think there is any chance of 28 cars actually showing up on the grid next year, but I would rather technically allow 28 for now rather than have the FIA try to guess which applications will result in actual cars on the grid next year.

Have I missed it or has someone mentioned Toro Roso? A year ago that team was openly admitting they needed to find a buyer by the end of this season. Now it looks like 2010 will have more entered teams than funding for said teams, so the value of Toro Roso has surely plumeted to not much more than the value of their equipment. I know they have not been getting the latest and greatest from Red Bull, but their car is roughly similar to the best car on the grid and they are last in the constructor's championship.

I'm pro-Toro Roso (due to the Minardi roots if nothing else), but I just don't see them making it. Does anyone think they will be there for 2010? If so with what funding?

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WhiteBlue wrote:I would like more teams. 20 cars is an artificial situation. F1 teams and drivers need to be exposed to competition from the lower ranks on a permanent basis. The new entrants will not be competitive out of the box but look at Brawn and Force India. In a close nit technical world the cars are more equal than ever and the races have been very good lately. 2009 will be seen as a vintage season soon.
The thing is that Brawn and FI have sort of benefited from the drastic rule changes. Next year there will be some continuity, so all the current cars on the grid have an advantage over the new teams already. They only way I can see a new team breaking through in the next 3 years is via some radical design which no one else has seen (quite unlikely) or another set of drastic rule changes to level the playing field again.

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vall wrote: sure, being 5s slower is dangerous. Should not be allowed
No.

At Le Mans there are several classes competing simultaneously. The Ferraris 430 and Porches 911 where 55 km/h slower in the Mulsanne straight than the LMP1 cars. In all the F1 history almost always there had been cars 5s slower than the leaders, being Forti in 1995 the extreme case with cars 7s off peace. It can be done.
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bill shoe wrote:Yea, as a spectator I think more teams can only be good. The only downside to more teams is if you own a current team and are looking to sell.

I don't think there is any chance of 28 cars actually showing up on the grid next year, but I would rather technically allow 28 for now rather than have the FIA try to guess which applications will result in actual cars on the grid next year.

Have I missed it or has someone mentioned Toro Roso? A year ago that team was openly admitting they needed to find a buyer by the end of this season. Now it looks like 2010 will have more entered teams than funding for said teams, so the value of Toro Roso has surely plumeted to not much more than the value of their equipment. I know they have not been getting the latest and greatest from Red Bull, but their car is roughly similar to the best car on the grid and they are last in the constructor's championship.

I'm pro-Toro Roso (due to the Minardi roots if nothing else), but I just don't see them making it. Does anyone think they will be there for 2010? If so with what funding?
They still have funding from red bull for another year, they're contract expires at the start of 2011 or end of 2010 as they can no longer accept customer cars.