Future of Schumacher

[Adamski]

What is annoying me in this situation is that Michael could be still a very good choose for the four top teams. Red bull, lotus, ferrari and mclaren could be a better championship contender if they changed their second driver to schumacher . The problem with this is that Michael wouldn't deserve a secondary position even in a top team.

About a possible Ferrari drive: Montezemolo hinted Perez not enough experienced for a Ferrari drive. Well, if it's Michael who is the other possible driver, than it's very true.

Alonso hinted, that when his team will replace Massa, than they should change him to a man who is knowing very well the Ferrari culture and is definitely faster than Felipe. I think again that Michael fits in this story. But most possibly i just would like to see Michael again in the podium, because i know he still can do it.

[Shrieker]

The future of Schumacher... is the past. In my books he did extremely well for a forty something guy. He didn't show his old age much.

I am 55 now and I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun if I could here or read what you'd be saying when you strike 43

I know 43 years is not an old age at all. But you also know 43 y/o is too old for this sport. So far (at least in 2010 and 11) Rosberg has clearly outperformed Schumi in terms of raw pace (qualifying). Can you say it would have been the same with a 27 year old Schumi in the seat ? I think not.

[Chip]

The future of Schumacher... is the past. In my books he did extremely well for a forty something guy. He didn't show his old age much.

I am 55 now and I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun if I could here or read what you'd be saying when you strike 43

I know 43 years is not an old age at all. But you also know 43 y/o is too old for this sport. So far (at least in 2010 and 11) Rosberg has clearly outperformed Schumi in terms of raw pace (qualifying). Can you say it would have been the same with a 27 year old Schumi in the seat ? I think not.

So what? Now Schumi is 2 years older and the score is 8-6 for Him. Quite positive dynamic.

[marcush.]

The future of Schumacher... is the past. In my books he did extremely well for a forty something guy. He didn't show his old age much.

I am 55 now and I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun if I could here or read what you'd be saying when you strike 43

I know 43 years is not an old age at all. But you also know 43 y/o is too old for this sport. So far (at least in 2010 and 11) Rosberg has clearly outperformed Schumi in terms of raw pace (qualifying). Can you say it would have been the same with a 27 year old Schumi in the seat ? I think not.

It took him longer to adapt than anticipated,true .But really Schumachers gap is not increasing but it actually went down to zero within 3 years.
So if you like-he has lost a fair bit of one of his main assets quick adapting to new circumstances- but still his raw ability is a match or better than Rosbergs ,otherwise he would not have been able to develop quicker than rosberg -after all he is not driving any slower than him these days.
To me if you show the door to schumacher -that´s also saying Byebye rosberg .
Let´s see how he compares to Hamilton ..
BTW the year is not over yet .
I expect a lot of DNFs for Schumacher due to technical maladies but not a single Qualifying where he has to play second fiddle to Nico .10 spot Qualy bonus issues set aside of course.

[phillippe]

Alonso hinted, that when his team will replace Massa, than they should change him to a man who is knowing very well the Ferrari culture and is definitely faster than Felipe.

When did Alonso say this? So far, I have only heard Alonso saying positive things about Massa.

[Shrieker]

Chip, Marcush,

As I said in another topic, it's Rosberg underperforming this season, not Schumi getting quicker

[Vasconia]

Chip, Marcush,

As I said in another topic, it's Rosberg underperforming this season, not Schumi getting quicker

I suppose you can give any explanation about this or I will think that its part of your imagination.

[Shrieker]

Team mate comparisions are relative. Take Lewis and Jenson for example. Jenson did well in 2011 compared to Lewis. But in 2012, Lewis is 12-2 ahead in qualy, which represents pure pace. Has Lewis gotten suddenly a lot faster ? No. It's Jenson who hasn't managed to adapt to the lack of EBD (or other stuff). So he has slowed down.

If you really want to quantify whether a driver has gotten faster from past seasons you need telemetry data. You can simply do a cross check of 2011 and 2012 telemetry of both drivers and it will give you the answer(more or less). I don't have the means to do that. So mine is an educated guess. If you claim Schumacher has gotten faster then it's a guess too, just like mine. You can't claim it's about adaptation really (He has adapted now so he is faster). How can one claim that it took a driver of Schumacher's caliber TWO FULL seasons (and then some!) to adapt ?!? LOL. He has been slow(slow not as in snail slow) because of age, and it hasn't changed.

[spacer]

If he leaves F1, why not do something like LMS? Anyone know if he ever spoke out an opinion about endurance tc racing?

[marcush.]

Team mate comparisions are relative. Take Lewis and Jenson for example. Jenson did well in 2011 compared to Lewis. But in 2012, Lewis is 12-2 ahead in qualy, which represents pure pace. Has Lewis gotten suddenly a lot faster ? No. It's Jenson who hasn't managed to adapt to the lack of EBD (or other stuff). So he has slowed down.

If you really want to quantify whether a driver has gotten faster from past seasons you need telemetry data. You can simply do a cross check of 2011 and 2012 telemetry of both drivers and it will give you the answer(more or less). I don't have the means to do that. So mine is an educated guess. If you claim Schumacher has gotten faster then it's a guess too, just like mine. You can't claim it's about adaptation really (He has adapted now so he is faster). How can one claim that it took a driver of Schumacher's caliber TWO FULL seasons (and then some!) to adapt ?!? LOL. He has been slow(slow not as in snail slow) because of age, and it hasn't changed.

Thasnks for the great insight you are willing to share .

telemetry btw is nothing more than transmitting data from a to b ....I think you are talking of data analysis here ? I´m not sure how you would be able to drag your point of view from data scraping when Schumacher is quicker this year .
If Rosberg has lost his speed somehow ,why retain him ? He seems not particularly suited to exist with strong teammembers ...maybe something realised by Schumacher early on?

[Adamski]

Alonso hinted, that when his team will replace Massa, than they should change him to a man who is knowing very well the Ferrari culture and is definitely faster than Felipe.

When did Alonso say this? So far, I have only heard Alonso saying positive things about Massa.

At autosport.com:
Singapore GP: Fernando Alonso says any new Ferrari driver must be stronger than Felipe Massa
Here you can read the whole story: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102663

Alonso: "If the team decides to change Felipe, anyone who arrives has to be better than Felipe.
For me, it means faster than Felipe.
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Schumacher ruled out LMS as he thinks it's too dangerous.

[Shrieker]

If Rosberg has lost his speed somehow ,why retain him ?

Going by your logic, McLaren should've fired Lewis last season. Drivers are human beings. They are affected by many variables, if you didn't already know - they can cause fluctuations in performance. As I said, team mate comparisions are relative, so a 8-6 qualy superiority in an incomplete season isn't proof that Schumacher has actually gotten faster. As I said in my previous post, if you claim that it took a driver of Schumacher's experience more than 2 full seasons to adapt then it's laughable at best. But if you still insist that he has adapted and has gotten faster, present the data please. Rosberg has Schumi's number in every statistic other than this season's qualy. And I bet he'll have bested Schumacher when this year is out.

[snoop1050]

then why when both cars finish the race is rosberg on average 3 finishing positions behind?
rosberg is just fortunate that schumacher had a n unreliable car when it was capable of big points hauls

[marcush.]

If Rosberg has lost his speed somehow ,why retain him ?

Going by your logic, McLaren should've fired Lewis last season. Drivers are human beings. They are affected by many variables, if you didn't already know - they can cause fluctuations in performance. As I said, team mate comparisions are relative, so a 8-6 qualy superiority in an incomplete season isn't proof that Schumacher has actually gotten faster. As I said in my previous post, if you claim that it took a driver of Schumacher's experience more than 2 full seasons to adapt then it's laughable at best. But if you still insist that he has adapted and has gotten faster, present the data please. Rosberg has Schumi's number in every statistic other than this season's qualy. And I bet he'll have bested Schumacher when this year is out.

going by your logic -why does this not count for Schumacher? cos he has 7 and not just a single title? because he´s older ,or cos you simply don´t like him?
it´s ok to have sympathy or anti -but do yourself a favour and don´t try to sell your personal views as facts.Mankind is only has just 30% perception of reality ...so you are not alone when admitting you have a blurred view.

[phillippe]

Alonso hinted, that when his team will replace Massa, than they should change him to a man who is knowing very well the Ferrari culture and is definitely faster than Felipe.

When did Alonso say this? So far, I have only heard Alonso saying positive things about Massa.

At autosport.com:
Singapore GP: Fernando Alonso says any new Ferrari driver must be stronger than Felipe Massa
Here you can read the whole story: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102663

Alonso: "If the team decides to change Felipe, anyone who arrives has to be better than Felipe.
For me, it means faster than Felipe.
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Schumacher ruled out LMS as he thinks it's too dangerous.

Thanks, mate.