Aston Martin wants hyper-car to be faster than F1 cars

[bdr529]

Interestingly Aston's press release doesn't contain the faster than F1 quote.

I think what's happened is Andy got a bit over enthusiastic in an interview and made that claim off the cuff and of his own accord. Now the quote's grown legs of its own and become the main theme of the car which I don't really think was the plan.
Lets just see how this develops.

I read some article this week that said faster then a McLaren F1 around Silverstone
I'll post the link when I remember were I read it

[Tim.Wright]

Faster than a McLaren F1 has a completely different meaning.

I haven't seen that quote, but the man himself posted the following: https://twitter.com/AndyatAston/status/ ... 7854465024 That's only got a single interpretation in my opinion...

[hemichromis]

lol, faster than a Mclaren F1 roadcar?

I think a Nissan GTR could do that!

[bdr529]

It was a Top Speed article from this week

At this point, Aston has even admitted that it plans to make the hypercar faster than the McLaren F1 around Silverstone so if anybody’s keeping score, the expectations for the AM-RB 001 are currently going through the roof.

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/a ... 72844.html

[DiogoBrand]

From Aston Martins' CEO, Andy Palmer...

“This is a no excuses halo car – the most luxurious car in its class, but also the quickest and the fastest.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/aston-mart ... 1-road-car[/quote]

I didn't remember that, but now that I do:
Why are we even giving this idea any attention? This was clearly to create some hype for their new partnership, as well as "create pressure" for formula one to introduce faster cars so maybe Red Bull will be able to make a competitive car again.

This is pretty much the exact same thing as Bernie's budget engines. It's never ever gonna even have a chance of becoming real, it's just political play.


If you want to keep discussing this, fine, it's an interesting topic, but don't expect this project to leave the paper, or even reach the paper for that matter.

[SR71]

From Aston Martins' CEO, Andy Palmer...

“This is a no excuses halo car – the most luxurious car in its class, but also the quickest and the fastest.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/aston-mart ... 1-road-car

I didn't remember that, but now that I do:
Why are we even giving this idea any attention? This was clearly to create some hype for their new partnership, as well as "create pressure" for formula one to introduce faster cars so maybe Red Bull will be able to make a competitive car again.

This is pretty much the exact same thing as Bernie's budget engines. It's never ever gonna even have a chance of becoming real, it's just political play.


If you want to keep discussing this, fine, it's an interesting topic, but don't expect this project to leave the paper, or even reach the paper for that matter.[/quote]


Project is well into development.

[SR71]

From Aston Martins' CEO, Andy Palmer...

“This is a no excuses halo car – the most luxurious car in its class, but also the quickest and the fastest.

Welp, no more clean living for me as an industrial designer, obviously I should switch up to smoking unfathomable amounts of pot and move up to CEO pay. Should I be ripped out of my gourd when I enter Britain to ensure my resume makes it to the right people?

If you're and industrial designer the "in its class" part of the statement should mean something to you. It's gone over a few others heads, but words do have meanings as they say.

Care to share your thoughts of how "in its class" could be interpreted ?

[bdr529]

Project is well into development.

Can you supply the naysayers with some information as to where they currently are in the development stage?

[DiogoBrand]

Project is well into development.

Can you supply the naysayers with some information as to where they currently are in the development stage?

I'd like to know that as well.
It would be really impressive that two weeks after announcing their new parnership they already have a project for a car faster than Formula 1 well into development.

[Tim.Wright]

The car is supposed to be ready for 2018. Given that its their first mid engined car I'd guess that they be looking at a development time of around 3 years. So at a guess I'd say they are probably already a year into the development and would probably be well into the design of the first architectural mules by now.

[SR71]

Project is well into development.

Can you supply the naysayers with some information as to where they currently are in the development stage?

I'd like to know that as well.
It would be really impressive that two weeks after announcing their new parnership they already have a project for a car faster than Formula 1 well into development.

I'm not sure this forum is the appropriate place to educate people how press releases work.

Id like to bring your knowledge forward, all I can say is learn about press releases. That goes for so many people in this forum, a lot of really smart people here still think that when something is announced that's when it starts. Never in the history of business partnerships has the partnership started the day of the press announcement. More than likely this business partnership was inked last year when the rumors started and has been working behind a confidentiality and press embargo curtain for some time. That's how they pretty much always work - try to remember that moving forward in life. You'll start to appreciate the business side of this stuff a bit more with that knowledge.

To your point, Horner said the car is already producing more downforce than any F1 car red bull has produced in the simulator. On top of that, red bull has some of the best simulation experience in the world and the history of Motorsport simulation in general. They are basically the benchmark. If you can't believe what the benchmark is saying about what they know best then it might be more of a personal issue. I have a feeling most naysayers just don't like red bull. I'm confident if Ferrari or Mac announced this project we'd have a completely different tune.

[FoxHound]

The car is supposed to be ready for 2018. Given that its their first mid engined car I'd guess that they be looking at a development time of around 3 years. So at a guess I'd say they are probably already a year into the development and would probably be well into the design of the first architectural mules by now.

I'd say that the tie up with Red Bull is evidence that it has only just started development.

Reichman(AM) and Newey(RB) are co-developing this, and Newey was hands full up until January with the RB12.
I'd even suggest the pair may not even have met up until that point either.

To my mind, this "car" is very much on the drawing board.

[SR71]

The car is supposed to be ready for 2018. Given that its their first mid engined car I'd guess that they be looking at a development time of around 3 years. So at a guess I'd say they are probably already a year into the development and would probably be well into the design of the first architectural mules by now.

They've also said there will be two Aston Martin only halo cars launched between the Vulcan and red bull project. They will probably keep building upon the knowledge learned in each of those - quickly evolving to the ultimate version which is the red bull.

If that's the case it's pretty smart and as these low volume runs go - can be very profitable.

They'll also be building a customer base that will be demanding even more performance. The Vulcan is a good start for them.

[SR71]

The car is supposed to be ready for 2018. Given that its their first mid engined car I'd guess that they be looking at a development time of around 3 years. So at a guess I'd say they are probably already a year into the development and would probably be well into the design of the first architectural mules by now.

I'd say that the tie up with Red Bull is evidence that it has only just started development.

Reichman(AM) and Newey(RB) are co-developing this, and Newey was hands full up until January with the RB12.
I'd even suggest the pair may not even have met up until that point either.

To my mind, this "car" is very much on the drawing board.

By drawing board you mean advanced CAD packages with teams of engineers working on protobuilds and simulation teams already running bodywork downforce?

Then yes, I agree, this project is on the drawing board. could you show me a hyper car or even F1 car that didn't start this way (Contemprary cars of course).

[FoxHound]

To your point, Horner said the car is already producing more downforce than any F1 car red bull has produced in the simulator.

Horner, that great bastion of truth.

But he maybe right, only it ain't that hard to create more downforce.
Want a case in point?