2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

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ME4ME wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 14:28
Juzh wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 13:05
Obviously their main advantage is in the the mgu-h recovery.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that it is combustion that is the real advantage then? I mean, I doubt their MGUH design is fastly different to any other. It's the application of the unit, the amount of recovery that might differ. But the amount of recoverable energy, or energy worth recovering without making a bad trade-of, is heavily dependent on the combustion process and turbo compounding.

Hearing Wazari speak about Honda's big upcoming combustion upgrade.. I think that that is still the area where the differences are.
You could very well be right (and probably are), but it leads to the same conclusion, no? MGU-H recovery is their forte.

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TAG wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 15:30
Vasconia wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 12:52
I do want to see a hungry Alonso in the front, I think he wil be a beast, too many years in the shadows..
I think Alonso is one of the top three on the grid, unfortunately for him, he's in the sport at the same time Vettel and Hamilton are both of which are around the same level but are arguably better qualifiers. Unlike those two, Alonso has made some abysmal career choices. The too many years in the shadows have been his own doing.

Would love to see him in a Mercedes next year come Melbourne.
I would dearly love to see Alonso @ Mercedes..... they have dominated for far too long...

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kenny5 wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 22:46
TAG wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 15:30
Vasconia wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 12:52
I do want to see a hungry Alonso in the front, I think he wil be a beast, too many years in the shadows..
I think Alonso is one of the top three on the grid, unfortunately for him, he's in the sport at the same time Vettel and Hamilton are both of which are around the same level but are arguably better qualifiers. Unlike those two, Alonso has made some abysmal career choices. The too many years in the shadows have been his own doing.

Would love to see him in a Mercedes next year come Melbourne.
I would dearly love to see Alonso @ Mercedes..... they have dominated for far too long...
Ouch
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Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

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ME4ME wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 14:28
Juzh wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 13:05
Obviously their main advantage is in the the mgu-h recovery.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that it is combustion that is the real advantage then? I mean, I doubt their MGUH design is fastly different to any other. It's the application of the unit, the amount of recovery that might differ. But the amount of recoverable energy, or energy worth recovering without making a bad trade-of, is heavily dependent on the combustion process and turbo compounding.

Hearing Wazari speak about Honda's big upcoming combustion upgrade.. I think that that is still the area where the differences are.
I think other car characteristics are also at play. For instance: Merc has one of the best suspension setups out there. That allows them to brake deeper into the corner than for instance the Mclaren which visually had much more movement in the front end (at least in recent years, not sure about the new car). This is an advantage which translates into better fuel efficiency and energy recovery as it allows for a much more efficient driving style.

I don’t think you can look at one car characteristic in isolation, be it engine, aero suspension or other. It is the combination of little things which compound into overall car performance.

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daniellammers wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 23:14
kenny5 wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 22:46
TAG wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 15:30


I think Alonso is one of the top three on the grid, unfortunately for him, he's in the sport at the same time Vettel and Hamilton are both of which are around the same level but are arguably better qualifiers. Unlike those two, Alonso has made some abysmal career choices. The too many years in the shadows have been his own doing.

Would love to see him in a Mercedes next year come Melbourne.
I would dearly love to see Alonso @ Mercedes..... they have dominated for far too long...
Ouch
Funniest post on F1T for a long time! =D> :lol: :lol: :lol:

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kenny5 wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 22:46
TAG wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 15:30
Vasconia wrote:
16 Mar 2018, 12:52
I do want to see a hungry Alonso in the front, I think he wil be a beast, too many years in the shadows..
I think Alonso is one of the top three on the grid, unfortunately for him, he's in the sport at the same time Vettel and Hamilton are both of which are around the same level but are arguably better qualifiers. Unlike those two, Alonso has made some abysmal career choices. The too many years in the shadows have been his own doing.

Would love to see him in a Mercedes next year come Melbourne.
I would dearly love to see Alonso @ Mercedes..... they have dominated for far too long...

BRAVO sir, that is a great joke. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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http://en.f1i.com/news/297460-no-firm-g ... isola.html

Looks like they're tossing some spice in the mix, for the season opener there's only new tires, tires which Mercedes barely used, will be interesting to see who learned from the new compounds. We won't see last year's soft until the second and 3rd rounds.
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kenny5 wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 22:46
I would dearly love to see Alonso @ Mercedes..... they have dominated for far too long...
=D>

OMG Kenny killed it.
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Is it 100% for sure no grid girls this weekend? just pit chix

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yes they showed the grid kids on tv last night.

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TAG wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 02:27
kenny5 wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 22:46
I would dearly love to see Alonso @ Mercedes..... they have dominated for far too long...
=D>

OMG Kenny killed it.
I think you meant to say: "OMG, you killed, Kenny!"

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Dazed1 wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 03:53
TAG wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 02:27
kenny5 wrote:
18 Mar 2018, 22:46
I would dearly love to see Alonso @ Mercedes..... they have dominated for far too long...
=D>

OMG Kenny killed it.
I think you meant to say: "OMG, you killed, Kenny!"
the oxford comma saves the day!
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carisi2k wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 03:05
yes they showed the grid kids on tv last night.
OK, thanks for that

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godlameroso wrote:
19 Mar 2018, 01:40
http://en.f1i.com/news/297460-no-firm-g ... isola.html

Looks like they're tossing some spice in the mix, for the season opener there's only new tires, tires which Mercedes barely used, will be interesting to see who learned from the new compounds. We won't see last year's soft until the second and 3rd rounds.
Also consider that Barcelona testing was conducted in unusually cool weather with a brand new track surface. Historical data was pretty much thrown out the window on top of the fact that all the compounds are now softer. That affected all teams' learning.

And there won't be any Hypersofts at the Spanish GP. So, I count at least 3 reasons why Merc skipped out on trying them during Winter Testing.

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Rain is always a good thing though I agree with the fact that we are curious to see the real pecking order...unless this order sucks and consecuently I would start with the rain dance :D