2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[SoulPancake13]

Someone needs to have an intervention with Pirelli, this is the second race in a row most of the top teams can't keep the tyre alive for an entire lap really. George only did his mega lap by crawling on the outlap, I think this is still somewhere Ferrari need to improve since it seems we keep getting caught out by temps(I think both drivers had dead tyres by the end of the lap)

[Luscion]

Hamilton explains Ferrari's step back: "We made some changes to improve the race performance, making the car more difficult on a single lap"

https://autoracer.it/it/hamilton-confer ... ne-in-gara

I'm a slightly bit skeptical about this choice... Not because it's not right in itself, but Ferrari doesn't have good performance in T14-15 and if you want to pass you need to be good there under braking. Starting from the back and relying on tire deg means they need to either be patient, and then make no mistakes when you have free air, and/or lucky that you either get in front at the start or that race pace is close enough that you can regain your loss during the pit stop window.

If the race is a 1 stop I'm not sure how you regain the top by starting 5-6...

As I already said yesterday, they've got to sort out braking as fast as possible, this can be a really good car level with macca.

I dont think they expected 3rd row, Lewis said he didnt expect to be 5th and 6th. He was on for P2 before whatever happened in the last corner cost him 2 tenths alone but he said hes very optimistic for tomorrow and Fred seems to think its a game of tire management. i think the good thing is that even though Charles was in dirty air for most of the race around lap 12 his pace picked up a lot in the sprint, just couldnt pass Russell cause he was struggling in turn 13 and with this amount of deg i really dont think its going to be a one stop

[Muramasa666]

[Downforce777]

https://autoracer.it/it/hamilton-confer ... ne-in-gara

I'm a slightly bit skeptical about this choice... Not because it's not right in itself, but Ferrari doesn't have good performance in T14-15 and if you want to pass you need to be good there under braking. Starting from the back and relying on tire deg means they need to either be patient, and then make no mistakes when you have free air, and/or lucky that you either get in front at the start or that race pace is close enough that you can regain your loss during the pit stop window.

If the race is a 1 stop I'm not sure how you regain the top by starting 5-6...

As I already said yesterday, they've got to sort out braking as fast as possible, this can be a really good car level with macca.

I dont think they expected 3rd row, Lewis said he didnt expect to be 5th and 6th. He was on for P2 before whatever happened in the last corner cost him 2 tenths alone but he said hes very optimistic for tomorrow and Fred seems to think its a game of tire management. i think the good thing is that even though Charles was in dirty air for most of the race around lap 12 his pace picked up a lot in the sprint, just couldnt pass Russell cause he was struggling in turn 13 and with this amount of deg i really dont think its going to be a one stop

Yes, Lewis drove in the flesh until the last corner on the front row, but the last corner is a weak point for Lewis, about 12 km in time difference with Leclerc in the last corner, not the problem of SF25, I think it is the problem of Lewis

[Sevach]

I'm a slightly bit skeptical about this choice... Not because it's not right in itself, but Ferrari doesn't have good performance in T14-15 and if you want to pass you need to be good there under braking. Starting from the back and relying on tire deg means they need to either be patient, and then make no mistakes when you have free air, and/or lucky that you either get in front at the start or that race pace is close enough that you can regain your loss during the pit stop window.

If the race is a 1 stop I'm not sure how you regain the top by starting 5-6...

As I already said yesterday, they've got to sort out braking as fast as possible, this can be a really good car level with macca.

I dont think they expected 3rd row, Lewis said he didnt expect to be 5th and 6th. He was on for P2 before whatever happened in the last corner cost him 2 tenths alone but he said hes very optimistic for tomorrow and Fred seems to think its a game of tire management. i think the good thing is that even though Charles was in dirty air for most of the race around lap 12 his pace picked up a lot in the sprint, just couldnt pass Russell cause he was struggling in turn 13 and with this amount of deg i really dont think its going to be a one stop

Yes, Lewis drove in the flesh until the last corner on the front row, but the last corner is a weak point for Lewis, about 12 km in time difference with Leclerc in the last corner, not the problem of SF25, I think it is the problem of Lewis

The way Lewis car is setup makes it a dream to drive on the hairpins of Shanghai, i think it pays the price on medium higher speed corners, fast changes of direction.

[214270]

Better comms.


Still some friction, but better.

[Xyz22]

Lewis really pulled off an amazing lap in SQ and executed a perfect sprint.
I think he found a very good setup from the get go + his overall ability on this track really allowed him to outperform the others. Unfortunately, the others also catched up with the track and improved their setups, including Leclerc who was behind by 0.09s in Q3 at the end.

The race is going to be difficult but maybe they can get Max and George.

[f1316]

So this quali result, if not spectacular, really is fairly encouraging. Quarter of a second down, with tyre life across the lap the main differentiator (and, just like the last race, high temperatures potentially emphasising the need for careful tyre management) and that despite making a change with an eye on the race. This is an altogether much more encouraging view of the car, especially given the high speed seems to be improved.

Moreover, I still believe there’s more to be found from setup as they get to know the new suspension better and know how to find the right ways to make the car more benign. You could say the same for McLaren, of course, but I think there may be a subtle but important distinction: Ferrari are getting to know the pullrod front setups and that takes time to fully understand; McLaren on the other hand designed an extreme suspension solution (described as a ‘risk’ by Wache) where the edginess is probably a known but unavoidable consequence of the performance gain. That is to say: Ferrari’s limitations seem more solvable than McLaren’s imho (albeit it’s possible the McLaren has the higher ceiling).

[Downforce777]

Lewis really pulled off an amazing lap in SQ and executed a perfect sprint.
I think he found a very good setup from the get go + his overall ability on this track really allowed him to outperform the others. Unfortunately, the others also catched up with the track and improved their setups, including Leclerc who was behind by 0.09s in Q3 at the end.

The race is going to be difficult but maybe they can get Max and George.

Unfortunately, Lewis could beat the first row, but the last turn was very bad and the loss of 2 tenths is not a problem of SF25, it is a problem of Lewis

[Xyz22]

Lewis really pulled off an amazing lap in SQ and executed a perfect sprint.
I think he found a very good setup from the get go + his overall ability on this track really allowed him to outperform the others. Unfortunately, the others also catched up with the track and improved their setups, including Leclerc who was behind by 0.09s in Q3 at the end.

The race is going to be difficult but maybe they can get Max and George.

Unfortunately, Lewis could beat the first row, but the last turn was very bad and the loss of 2 tenths is not a problem of SF25, it is a problem of Lewis

Lewis has been slow in the last corner compared to Leclerc and other drivers since the first lap in FP. It's related to his driving style / setup / car combination that is probably paying off elsewhere. He didn't make any mistakes.

[Vanja #66]

They already regretting about Newey.

For sure, look how quickly he turned things around in Aston Martin!

[Juzh]

Hamilton lost 2 tenths in final corner even against leclerc.

[Downforce777]

Lewis really pulled off an amazing lap in SQ and executed a perfect sprint.
I think he found a very good setup from the get go + his overall ability on this track really allowed him to outperform the others. Unfortunately, the others also catched up with the track and improved their setups, including Leclerc who was behind by 0.09s in Q3 at the end.

The race is going to be difficult but maybe they can get Max and George.

Unfortunately, Lewis could beat the first row, but the last turn was very bad and the loss of 2 tenths is not a problem of SF25, it is a problem of Lewis

Lewis has been slow in the last corner compared to Leclerc and other drivers since the first lap in FP. It's related to his driving style / setup / car combination that is probably paying off elsewhere. He didn't make any mistakes.

I am not sure that this is the style of piloting, they will lose 12-14 km in one turn, it is very much and this is the problem of Lewis, for some reason he is too careful there, the same Leclerc in the last corner is even faster than McLaren by a little

[SoulPancake13]

It could be down to how Lewis used the tyres over the lap still. He gains a lot in S2 compared to Charles, might be using more of the tyre life there compared to Charles.

[Xyz22]

What i'm saying is that Lewis has been slower there since the first lap this weekend, which means is not a "mistake".