2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Judging by Piastri's race sim on the hard tire, the hard tire is the best race tire. So it is a small advantage to Red Bull (vs Ferrari and Mercedes) to have 2 sets. Red Bull also tends to be better on the harder tires. So maybe it's not so bad?
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Cs98 wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:07
I'm not seeing any engine mode here. Only straight line losses are before and after T14, which can be explained by McLaren running less wing and Verstappen having a poor exit on the final corner. RB usually run lower engine on Friday, but since this is the only representative session they may have turned it up today, at least on the short run. On the long run it's still conservative. Deg is high, brakes were sh*t, balance was off in some corners, so still a lot of time to find on both short and long.

Oh, and Tsunoda is in for a ride I think.
Yeah, I should have said that this engine mode thing was true only for the race sims.

McL should still have a very big margin over a flying lap and we are nowhere there as it stands indeed.
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AR3-GP wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:21
Judging by Piastri's race sim on the hard tire, the hard tire is the best race tire. So it is a small advantage to Red Bull (vs Ferrari and Mercedes) to have 2 sets. Red Bull also tends to be better on the harder tires. So maybe it's not so bad?
Fighting for P3, given Ferrari brought a whole new floor would be a decent achievement for this weekend.

So far the pecking order has basically been McLaren, Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari. For us to be ahead of the Mercs would be good.

Would be also better if Oscar wins, as far as the driver's title goes.
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f1isgood wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:29
Would be also better if Oscar wins, as far as the driver's title goes.
That only remains true if Oscar doesn't end up being the faster driver overall this season. So far I have been surprised by him. He is not miles behind Lando like he was last year.
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This is a perfect track for demonstration of aero efficiency (flexing wings help a lot) : need DF to keep tyres alive, don't need DF inorder to keep straight line speed. The less the DF depends on wings (maximum from floor) the better the carwill be. --> a.k.a RobMarshall Mclaren.

Redbull must be able n a proper quandary - take away wing and defend/overtake superbly - keep wing and preserve tyres.

I think this race will hinge heavily on crash triggered safety cars and free/costly pitstops.

If it were up to me, I would keep bare minimum wing and roll the dice with tyre life, putting the onus on driver.

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Emag wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:35
f1isgood wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 19:29
Would be also better if Oscar wins, as far as the driver's title goes.
That only remains true if Oscar doesn't end up being the faster driver overall this season. So far I have been surprised by him. He is not miles behind Lando like he was last year.
Sure, Oscar I think has been quicker in the races so far but I'll leave it there. More generally speaking, there are lots of hopiums and assumptions here as far as WDC for Max goes: Assuming McL get hit a little with the TD and RB make a step, then it's better for Max to have a smaller margin to the top than a larger one. Smaller in this case would be the guy with the largest gap to Max basically loses to his teammate. I am viewing this very myopically indeed but that's all I can hope for.

That said, there's no WDC chance if nothing happens to the pecking order and frankly I doubt anything will.
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max after fp2: “just difficult. of course, it took one lap, two laps to get into it but still the gap was quite massive, so not entirely happy. just struggling a lot with grip, the feeling in general. the balance wasn’t too bad but just off and quite a bit of work to do, also in the long run.”

“we’re just too slow basically, every lap and honestly it was not a lot of fun out there in the long run. a bit of drift practice at the end there as well!”

"we're just too slow basically".
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Yeah :lol: we're so slow and there's no reason other than inability to control surface temps of rear tyres

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We are cooked if Max says this. Damn, we really might be fourth fastest :')
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Teams have been doing one stop strategies now they are having tire problems its strange

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Bill wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 20:26
Teams have been doing one stop strategies now they are having tire problems its strange
It's not strange. This is Bahrain every year. 18 year old abrasive tarmac in hot weather vs 3 circuits with new tarmac and cold weather.
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Looking grim so far..

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Juzh wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 20:37
Looking grim so far..
Rb21 overheats the tyres. If this characteristic does not change with the upgrade package I don't think it's possible to compete for the season. Summer is coming

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Just start with the medium tyres and go MHH. Hards are good for us. I think tomorrow Mclaren will be about 0.3s ahead of everybody. We need another miracle into FP3 and qualy over the night.

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I do wonder if Red Bull should do an one-stopper, at least with Yuki to see what happens.
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