2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Downforce777]

Hamilton lost 2 tenths in final corner even against leclerc.

Yes, it's true, this uncertainty of Lewis in the last turn left him in the first row today, 0.2 tens is a lot in such a tight fight

[ringo]

Lewis turns in too early in the final corner.
It's as if he needs prescription glasses at this age of 40. Max and George went thru turn 16 much faster and with little fuss because they turn in later and spent less time scrubbing the tyres. Lewis turn in too early thus putting the car thru a longer turning phase before passing the apex. Hopefully Ricky points this out.
Maybe the car has not front end by then and udersteers so much he needs to turn in so early?

[Seanspeed]

Lewis turns in too early in the final corner.
It's as if he needs prescription glasses at this age of 40. Max and George went thru turn 16 much faster and with little fuss because they turn in later and spent less time scrubbing the tyres. Lewis turn in too early thus putting the car thru a longer turning phase before passing the apex. Hopefully Ricky points this out.
Maybe the car has not front end by then and udersteers so much he needs to turn in so early?

The car's braking problems certainly wont help here. It's a tricky corner because you have to stab the brake at the last second, but only momentarily before you turn-in, and you dont want to scrub off too much speed either. If the car's braking isn't performing as well as he'd intuitively like it to, it could be throwing him off.

[Downforce777]

Lewis turns in too early in the final corner.
It's as if he needs prescription glasses at this age of 40. Max and George went thru turn 16 much faster and with little fuss because they turn in later and spent less time scrubbing the tyres. Lewis turn in too early thus putting the car thru a longer turning phase before passing the apex. Hopefully Ricky points this out.
Maybe the car has not front end by then and udersteers so much he needs to turn in so early?

on board the Ferrari car is one of the most stable and with minimal steering adjustments, this is no SF25, the Leclerc carries the same speed in the last corner as the McLaren at about 185 km/h, Lewis has 170-172 km/h, it's either the driver's style or it's worth reminding that it's only Lewis' second weekend at Ferrari, more time is needed to fully give a fast lap

[Seanspeed]

So this quali result, if not spectacular, really is fairly encouraging. Quarter of a second down, with tyre life across the lap the main differentiator (and, just like the last race, high temperatures potentially emphasising the need for careful tyre management) and that despite making a change with an eye on the race. This is an altogether much more encouraging view of the car, especially given the high speed seems to be improved.

Moreover, I still believe there’s more to be found from setup as they get to know the new suspension better and know how to find the right ways to make the car more benign. You could say the same for McLaren, of course, but I think there may be a subtle but important distinction: Ferrari are getting to know the pullrod front setups and that takes time to fully understand; McLaren on the other hand designed an extreme suspension solution (described as a ‘risk’ by Wache) where the edginess is probably a known but unavoidable consequence of the performance gain. That is to say: Ferrari’s limitations seem more solvable than McLaren’s imho (albeit it’s possible the McLaren has the higher ceiling).

The Mclaren is 'edgy' in the same way that those dominant Mercedes' were 'divas'. It's a dumb thing where the clearly fastest car isn't perfect all the time and people overexaggerate the issue as if other cars aren't even more sensitive overall. It's just people expect that fastest car to always be fastest and any time it's not blindingly superior, people say there must be some exceptional issue with it, as if any other car on the grid isn't dealing with much greater variations in performance per weekend/situation.

So far, the Mclaren still looks like the car with the widest working window. I dont see any evidence it is especially problematic compared to anybody else. Ferrari certainly have much bigger performance consistency problems, undoubtedly. And I also think it's oversimplifying things to suggest this is all due to front suspension layouts.

[Seanspeed]

Lewis turns in too early in the final corner.
It's as if he needs prescription glasses at this age of 40. Max and George went thru turn 16 much faster and with little fuss because they turn in later and spent less time scrubbing the tyres. Lewis turn in too early thus putting the car thru a longer turning phase before passing the apex. Hopefully Ricky points this out.
Maybe the car has not front end by then and udersteers so much he needs to turn in so early?

on board the Ferrari car is one of the most stable and with minimal steering adjustments, this is no SF25, the Leclerc carries the same speed in the last corner as the McLaren at about 185 km/h, Lewis has 170-172 km/h, it's either the driver's style or it's worth reminding that it's only Lewis' second weekend at Ferrari, more time is needed to fully give a fast lap

I have never in my life seen a massively experienced driver being given such grace about 'learning how to drive a car well' as Lewis moving to Ferrari. lol

Given the laptimes, I'd say it's Leclerc with the greater room for improvement currently.

[Xyz22]

It's clearly something related to driving style / setup.
Lewis has been slower there all weekend. On the other hand, he has been better than Leclerc in 2 corners specifically where he has been able to make a lot of difference.

[ScuderiaLeo]

The two cars didn't end up with that much time between them. They gained/lost time in different corners just to end up beside each other. It's disappointing either way...

[Luscion]

The two cars didn't end up with that much time between them. They gained/lost time in different corners just to end up beside each other. It's disappointing either way...

Hopefully their race pace is still strong, Max seems to think RB is the fourth fastest and Charles was catching Russell towards the end of the sprint, i think a podium is possible

[Xyz22]

The two cars didn't end up with that much time between them. They gained/lost time in different corners just to end up beside each other. It's disappointing either way...

Both Leclerc and Hamilton lost a lot of time (over 0.2s) compared to their best laps in SQ3 in turn 12 / 13.
This is why they are P5 and P6.

In any event, Lewis was making a lot of difference against George as well last year in the same corners he is making a lot of difference compared to Leclerc this year. Very interesting.

[atanatizante]

Some considerations for the race:

- Tomorrow in the race, all the drivers will have to use the H tyre, meaning the C2 compound, which nobody ran due to the Sprint weekend.
- It would be interesting to see how the cars cope here with an untested hard tyre, although they`ve tested C2 in Bahrein.
- Pirelli selected the tyres 1 step harder than last year due to the resurfaced track asphalt and the increased roughness, hence more grip available.
- This tyre will be the main race tyre, bearing in mind the above statements and the data from the Sprint race, meaning the tyre wear would be higher, hence it`ll be a 2-stop race.
- The front drivers on the grid will start on the M tyres and it`ll be interesting had one or both Ferrari drivers opt for an H tyre starting.
- Simulations say that a 2-stop race is both the fastest with the M-H-M tyre strategy and safest, due to the high percentage of a SC/VSC phase
- The undercut here is very powerful, the tyre wear is high and the big chance of an SC/VSC phase, all these reasons say that the 1-stop race is almost improbable.
- NOR, PIA and HAM drivers lowered the top speed between Sprint and the Qualy, hence they`ve increased DF in order to have better rear tyre management in the race.
- In contrast, VER and RUS increased their top speed, hence they opted for an attacking first stint followed by an aggressive undercut
- SF25 was set up with slight oversteer, hence understeer on the entry of a corner in order to protect the front left tyre ...


SQ top speeds:





Q top speeds:

[ScuderiaLeo]

I'm guessing we won't see them do many overtakes tomorrow. Also the race will be a few degrees hotter than the sprint, I hope this plays in Ferrari's favor.

[Fluido]

They already regretting about Newey.

For sure, look how quickly he turned things around in Aston Martin!

Newey started working for Aston on March 3. 2025. (19 days, including non-working days)
Your hate against Newey is incomprehensible.

[LM10]

Funny because I got a call from Vasseur too. He told me that I should not be happy about the sprint qualifying result and rather keep my expectations as low as possible because they've done an awful job with the car overall. Here and there they will cheat like in China, but the real performance of the car is way off.

I don't know if I should tell this in the forum, but... they actually mounted the pull-rod front suspension the wrong way. Vasseur at the moment is trying everything to convince a McLaren engineer to explain them the secrets of suspension mounting in a crash course.

OMG! He told I was his ONLY special confidante! Now I understand how Toto feels being backstabbed by Fred...

https://i.gifer.com/jU.gif

I'm sure you still are! He was a bit drunk when he called me.

[Luscion]

Some considerations for the race:

- Tomorrow in the race, all the drivers will have to use the H tyre, meaning the C2 compound, which nobody ran due to the Sprint weekend.
- It would be interesting to see how the cars cope here with an untested hard tyre, although they`ve tested C2 in Bahrein.
- Pirelli selected the tyres 1 step harder than last year due to the resurfaced track asphalt and the increased roughness, hence more grip available.
- This tyre will be the main race tyre, bearing in mind the above statements and the data from the Sprint race, meaning the tyre wear would be higher, hence it`ll be a 2-stop race.
- The front drivers on the grid will start on the M tyres and it`ll be interesting had one or both Ferrari drivers opt for an H tyre starting.
- Simulations say that a 2-stop race is both the fastest with the M-H-M tyre strategy and safest, due to the high percentage of a SC/VSC phase
- The undercut here is very powerful, the tyre wear is high and the big chance of an SC/VSC phase, all these reasons say that the 1-stop race is almost improbable.
- NOR, PIA and HAM drivers lowered the top speed between Sprint and the Qualy, hence they`ve increased DF in order to have better rear tyre management in the race.
- In contrast, VER and RUS increased their top speed, hence they opted for an attacking first stint followed by an aggressive undercut
- SF25 was set up with slight oversteer, hence understeer on the entry of a corner in order to protect the front left tyre ...


SQ top speeds:


https://postimg.cc/mcCtMms7 https://postimages.org/


Q top speeds:


https://postimg.cc/fkBkx36q https://postimages.org/

are the two images the wrong way around? you said NOR, PIA and Ham lowered speeds for quali but order of the images show the opposite