2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Tomorrow the gap will go down from 1.7s to 1.0-1.2s maybe. And thats about it, in qualy maybe p6,p7 will be the maximum result.

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I mean, Williams is overweight like Red Bull, and they’re about one second slower than Alpine. Once Red Bull fixes their weight issue, it could solve several problems, such as balance issues, tire management, energy recovery, and many other things. As Vowles said, because these rules are so complex, being 10 kg overweight doesn’t just cost 0.3 seconds—it can cost a lot more than that. I expect that when Red Bull fully fixes and understands their car, they will be capable of getting podiums, although wins this season are still uncertain. Things aren't looking good right now, but there is a glimmer of hope. Verstappen had a great start in Australia; in the first stint, he was barely any slower than the front-runners, so the car definitely has potential,

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pantherxxx wrote:
13 Mar 2026, 18:56
I mean, Williams is overweight like Red Bull, and they’re about one second slower than Alpine. Once Red Bull fixes their weight issue, it could solve several problems, such as balance issues, tire management, energy recovery, and many other things. As Vowles said, because these rules are so complex, being 10 kg overweight doesn’t just cost 0.3 seconds—it can cost a lot more than that. I expect that when Red Bull fully fixes and understands their car, they will be capable of getting podiums, although wins this season are still uncertain. Things aren't looking good right now, but there is a glimmer of hope. Verstappen had a great start in Australia; in the first stint, he was barely any slower than the front-runners, so the car definitely has potential,
We don't have too much information about the weight so we are all guessing, but I don't think the effect is that much.
Obviously these are kind of random numbers, but my feeling is that Williams can be like 20kg+ above, Red Bull maybe 5-10kg, and some other top teams like McLaren maybe 3-5kg or so.

So of course the effect is big if you look at Williams vs Alpine. But I doubt there is too much to gain in relation to Red Bull vs McLaren with weight. Couple of tenths at most.

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The chassis is probably their worst since 2015. They're insanely slow.

Mercedes' chassis is light years ahead. I am personally surprised that they're that good on the chassis side.

Looks like Red Bull lack everything now. Poor chassis, operationally suspect.

You really cannot convince me that the Monza floor would come at the cost of such a hit to 2026 development. To a certain degree the narrative that was sold and one that I bought was that they had correlation issues etc.

But if that meant shelving the 26 project to this degree it was absolutely an ill informed move and one that Horner was responsible for.

The 2026 car appears fundamentally broken. Serious questions need to be asked. We don't need a pattern for this year.
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Valeo wrote:
13 Mar 2026, 15:18
Makes sense as medium corners was also where the struggle was against Mclaren the last two years.
I would insist the problem is not medium speed per se but the type of corner (long radius medium speed), like Budapest which was also a nightmare.
On the contrary it makes no sense :D :D

One would assume that since we are in an entirely new aerodynamic regulation cycle, the inherent issues that remained when it came to achieving the right balance must no longer exist xD.
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All is different. All. Too different actually. These weirdo cars, how they go through corners, the electro pace, and non pace.

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Calm down. We have been warned about it last year! Erratic decisions won't change anything. Research and patience is needed now.

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lio007 wrote:
13 Mar 2026, 22:44
Calm down. We have been warned about it last year! Erratic decisions won't change anything. Research and patience is needed now.
What were we warned about? That they will actually be 1.7s a lap slower?
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Rikhart wrote:
13 Mar 2026, 11:52
Sergej wrote:
13 Mar 2026, 10:18
How was Russell ? "Red Bull has 1s over the straights" :lol:
"But why do we have so much criticism of George, he has no fault, poor lad"

:roll:
I mean that was probably Merc trolling after Red Bull (allegedly) flipped on them in the compression ratio saga.

Still, that was in reference to deployment/harvesting which is a PU thing, whereas the current problems seem almost entirely setup/balance related. If they can just figure that out they'll be back to fighting with Mclaren.
venkyhere wrote:
13 Mar 2026, 13:38
Expecting the RBPT PU to 'match' the illegal mercedes PU is a big ask.
Didn't Red Bull also have the compression ratio trick, just not as good as Mercedes?