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[f1isgood]

I do wonder if Red Bull should do an one-stopper, at least with Yuki to see what happens.

[AR3-GP]

A car that was 1 tenth slower, but with no tire overheating would be better than the one they have now. The summer months on the "real" F1 tracks will be very difficult with the current car behaviours. That Imola update really has to fundamentally change the characteristics with the tire. It should be the only thing they work on. It's just not possible to be competitive in most of the coming races without it.

[Sergej]

You shouldn't look at McLaren, they are untouchable here and it was fully expected. I hope they can do a step overnight to fight with Mercedes and Ferrari.

[organic]

Coming third and piastri win would be a phenomenal result. 4th with a Norris win I would also take in a heartbeat

[Paa]

Coming third and piastri win would be a phenomenal result. 4th with a Norris win I would also take in a heartbeat

Why would you take the latter in a heartbeat? How could be realistically much worse than that? Yeah, Max can be like 5th or so, but that's basically the same with 2 points differences.

[organic]

Coming third and piastri win would be a phenomenal result. 4th with a Norris win I would also take in a heartbeat

Why would you take the latter in a heartbeat? How could be realistically much worse than that? Yeah, Max can be like 5th or so, but that's basically the same with 2 points differences.

Because 3rd with a piastri win is not realistic. We can easily be clearly 4th fastest here, meaning behind Russell, Leclerc and Hamilton as well. Antonelli isn't far behind Russell usually and they seem comfortably ahead of red bull when deg is high

[f1isgood]

Re Bahrain: Everyone including Macca having serious deg issues so far in the long runs unless I am mistaken. But Macca just have more performance on their car (3 tenths a lap I estimate) in the long runs?

But agreed generally regarding the tire overheating issues, especially the fronts. That will matter when we go to the classical tracks.

[Sergej]

I wonder why they used 2 sets of (Max's) medium tyre with Iwasa, leaving only one for Max; if he wants to use medium in the race it will be without test. Or maybe they wrote the medium off from the get go.

[Paa]

I wonder why they used 2 sets of (Max's) medium tyre with Iwasa, leaving only one for Max; if he wants to use medium in the race it will be without test. Or maybe they wrote the medium off from the get go.

Is there a rule maybe to use 2 sets? I'm not sure.
And they thought softs were more important for Max?

[Sergej]

Yeah 2 sets but they could have differentiated. I suspect they just decided from the start that they will do S-H-H in the race.

[Vettel165]

Yeah 2 sets but they could have differentiated. I suspect they just decided from the start that they will do S-H-H in the race.

Crazy decision, the softs are very bad for the race.

[Paa]

Yeah 2 sets but they could have differentiated. I suspect they just decided from the start that they will do S-H-H in the race.

Crazy decision, the softs are very bad for the race.

Could be a desperate one.
We've seen in Japan how important is to be at the front in clean air.
Of course overtaking is much easier here so probably wouldn't matter.

[AR3-GP]

It's very easy to overtake here. There are 3 DRS zones. The qualifying position doesn't matter. The faster cars always come through on this circuit. We saw that in 2022, 2023, and 2024. Any bit of overdriving and the tires overheat so defending is also going to cost you more time.

[Paa]

It's very easy to overtake here. There are 3 DRS zones. The qualifying position doesn't matter. The faster cars always come through on this circuit. We saw that in 2022, 2023, and 2024. Any bit of overdriving and the tires overheat so defending is also going to cost you more time.

I know, I just wanted to come with something semi-reasonable.
To be fair, I think Red Bull winning has exactly the same chance on medium than with softs.

[venkyhere]

I wonder why they used 2 sets of (Max's) medium tyre with Iwasa, leaving only one for Max; if he wants to use medium in the race it will be without test. Or maybe they wrote the medium off from the get go.

Seems strange.
From what I understand, they have 2H, 1M, 6S left. Assuming that Q is going to consume a minimum of 4S (1 each for Q1 and Q2, 2 for Q3) , how are they going to distribute 2H, 1M and 2S across FP3 and race ?
A) 1M for FP3 , giving themselves one extra set of S for Q, and go with S-H-H for race
B) 1M and 1S for FP3, and S-H-H for race
C) 1H for FP3, giving themselves one extra set of S for Q, and go with S-M-H / S-H-M for race
D) 1H and 1S for FP3, and S-M-H / S-H-M for race

Most important Q - with IWA running the car in FP1, on Ms, that too at unrepresentative temps, and tortoise engine mode, how relevant will the data be, w.r.t VER driving it at representative temps on M ? This very factor can come to bite their proverbial, on Sunday.