2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Espresso]

The way Lewis car is setup makes it a dream to drive on the hairpins of Shanghai, i think it pays the price on medium higher speed corners, fast changes of direction.

As I understand Lewis tweaked the car himself fore the sprintrace. Then Ferrari made some small tweaks for Quali….made the car as stable as the RB…
Guess Lewis going to trust his own instincts more from now on…

[ScuderiaLeo]

As I understand Lewis tweaked the car himself fore the sprintrace. Then Ferrari made some small tweaks for Quali….made the car as stable as the RB…
Guess Lewis going to trust his own instincts more from now on…

I don't think Ferrari would make changes to the car without consulting the drivers first, this isn't a dictatorship.

I wouldn't be surprised if given the confidence and pace Ferrari showed earlier, they thought they could get away with putting it all into the race, then realized only during qualifying they'd introduced new problems.

To be fair Russell and Verstappen seemed to invest more into qualifying and since it'll be very hot tomorrow, this might be the wrong decision. Clean air is king but so is being able to spend more than ten laps on the same tires. We'll see...

[Luscion]

The way Lewis car is setup makes it a dream to drive on the hairpins of Shanghai, i think it pays the price on medium higher speed corners, fast changes of direction.

As I understand Lewis tweaked the car himself fore the sprintrace. Then Ferrari made some small tweaks for Quali….made the car as stable as the RB…
Guess Lewis going to trust his own instincts more from now on…

Lewis said they tweaked the car more for the race because its going to be about managing tires but that it made it less stable on a single lap and like Leo said, they wouldnt change the setup without talking to the drivers first. Had Lewis not gone so slow on the last corner he would be on the front row anyways so i dont think the car was that bad

[ringo]

Lewis turns in too early in the final corner.
It's as if he needs prescription glasses at this age of 40. Max and George went thru turn 16 much faster and with little fuss because they turn in later and spent less time scrubbing the tyres. Lewis turn in too early thus putting the car thru a longer turning phase before passing the apex. Hopefully Ricky points this out.
Maybe the car has not front end by then and udersteers so much he needs to turn in so early?

on board the Ferrari car is one of the most stable and with minimal steering adjustments, this is no SF25, the Leclerc carries the same speed in the last corner as the McLaren at about 185 km/h, Lewis has 170-172 km/h, it's either the driver's style or it's worth reminding that it's only Lewis' second weekend at Ferrari, more time is needed to fully give a fast lap

Or he used up all the grip in the tyres in the previous sectors. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

[ringo]

The two cars didn't end up with that much time between them. They gained/lost time in different corners just to end up beside each other. It's disappointing either way...

Hopefully their race pace is still strong, Max seems to think RB is the fourth fastest and Charles was catching Russell towards the end of the sprint, i think a podium is possible

Max downplaying the car as usual. F1 website has Redbull as 2nd fastest at the circuit behind Mclaren.

Russel is the one who may struggle with deg. Merc predicted to be 4th fastest.
Russel is gambling on overtaking in the first stint and staying in clean air.

This race will be the first time we get a clearer picture of the pecking order. A podium would be nice. The longer we go without a podium the bleaker the chances of a wdc or wcc.

[Luscion]

The two cars didn't end up with that much time between them. They gained/lost time in different corners just to end up beside each other. It's disappointing either way...

Hopefully their race pace is still strong, Max seems to think RB is the fourth fastest and Charles was catching Russell towards the end of the sprint, i think a podium is possible

Max downplaying the car as usual. F1 website has Redbull as 2nd fastest at the circuit behind Mclaren.

as far as i know Max is pretty honest about where the car is and how the feeling is driving it, like Lewis usually is and that chart F1 website makes is notoriously inaccurate, they had Ferrari 4th fastest, 3 tenths slower than Mclaren for the sprint race

[atanatizante]

Some considerations for the race:

- Tomorrow in the race, all the drivers will have to use the H tyre, meaning the C2 compound, which nobody ran due to the Sprint weekend.
- It would be interesting to see how the cars cope here with an untested hard tyre, although they`ve tested C2 in Bahrein.
- Pirelli selected the tyres 1 step harder than last year due to the resurfaced track asphalt and the increased roughness, hence more grip available.
- This tyre will be the main race tyre, bearing in mind the above statements and the data from the Sprint race, meaning the tyre wear would be higher, hence it`ll be a 2-stop race.
- The front drivers on the grid will start on the M tyres and it`ll be interesting had one or both Ferrari drivers opt for an H tyre starting.
- Simulations say that a 2-stop race is both the fastest with the M-H-M tyre strategy and safest, due to the high percentage of a SC/VSC phase
- The undercut here is very powerful, the tyre wear is high and the big chance of an SC/VSC phase, all these reasons say that the 1-stop race is almost improbable.
- NOR, PIA and HAM drivers lowered the top speed between Sprint and the Qualy, hence they`ve increased DF in order to have better rear tyre management in the race.
- In contrast, VER and RUS increased their top speed, hence they opted for an attacking first stint followed by an aggressive undercut
- SF25 was set up with slight oversteer, hence understeer on the entry of a corner in order to protect the front left tyre ...


SQ top speeds:


https://postimg.cc/mcCtMms7 https://postimages.org/


Q top speeds:


https://postimg.cc/fkBkx36q https://postimages.org/

are the two images the wrong way around? you said NOR, PIA and Ham lowered speeds for quali but order of the images show the opposite

Nope!
SQ: HAM 335kph to 333kph in Q
SQ: HAM 333kph to 332kph in Q
SQ: HAM 332kph to 330kph in Q

Graining and how they get rid of it is the main issue today in the race for all the drivers ...

[ScuderiaLeo]

Every team but Ferrari planned for a one stop.

Also terrible communication at the start. Leclerc asks for a one stop, Ferrari says no. Ferrari realizes every other team is doing it, then tells Leclerc, who gets annoyed because they didn't listen to him before...

[Luscion]

Car seemed much more drivable during the sprint than the main race, Lewis had all sorts of problems despite trying adjustments

[Sevach]

Worst tire usage of all today, what they did to the car after the sprint no one can explain.

[Fakepivot]

i think the contact with leclerc din't help either of the driver, shame, on to next one...

[Vinlarr89]

Car looked great at one point for Leclerc, then fell of a cliff, I’m assuming those few laps where he was close behind Ham and then also George cooked the tyres. Can’t see any other reason for it

[Shal_Leg16]

Was 3rd place lost today?

[Fakepivot]

charles was missing 20 to 30 point of df on front as said in radio, and later on we saw how max was quicker in s2 think charles's front were done by that time..

and lewis reported rare end instability a lot throw out the race, so that contact could have effected them both

[ringo]

Leclerc had a little flexi wing effect going on, but it didn't help the long run pace.
Well now we see it folks, 4th best car. Mercedes was dropping Lewis and Leclerc, and Redbull just fell out of sync on the first stint but found its footing on the hard tyre. SF25 only benefited from the lack of setup time from the other teams.
Lewis got it wrong with the setup for sure, and to some extent Charles. They did different setups, but both could not make a dent.