2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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djones wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 10:49
To be fair I didn’t even think about that until now.

Yeah Leclerc should have really given that place back at the end. It was quite unfair not to really.
I really doubt Hamilton cares about whether he got P5 or P6. Fans always care about this stuff WAY more than the drivers. The drivers are probably just worried about the car...

They looked terrible at low fuel too. Yes, the car might have pace in a perfect environment but there are so many issues that would need to be resolved in order to make it truly competitive, I'm not sure that's possible in the last year of regulations.

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djones wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 10:49
To be fair I didn’t even think about that until now.

Yeah Leclerc should have really given that place back at the end. It was quite unfair not to really.
It really doesn’t matter. Ferrari have bigger issues than who finishes P5 and P6.

I’ve seen a few people say they shouldn’t have made changes to the car. But you have to make changes to try and improve because that’s what everyone else is doing.
The problem they have is that, they don’t understand the package enough to make the correct changes. McLaren clearly do and Mercedes with George, absolutely understand their package.

So as sad as it is to say. They are still in pre season testing…it’s just that when they finally finish with their testing, hopefully they won’t be too far behind. Or even worse, maybe they never finish their testing.

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RB looks terrible at high fuel, FER looks terrible at low fuel atm in race trim, but the sprint race suggests that it can run good in low fuel too.
It’s very conflicting to say the least. Feels like setup window is again too small, which could be problematic.
Honestly do feel they would be better off running a bit more DF at the expense of top end though.

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Hamilton said something interesting just now, that the setup they used today was originally tested by Leclerc in Bahrain but this weekend it only made things worse. Commenter above who said Ferrari are still in pre-season testing is correct lol.

He also said it's not the ride height they adjusted.

Meanwhile, Leclerc said the changes made him more comfortable but he can't be certain how "good" it was because he wasn't able to run it without the damage.

Leclerc is okay with a slippery rear more, but both drivers said the car isn't consistent enough right now no matter what the behavior is. They seem a bit dejected about the difference in pace to McLaren especially in qualifying. I didn't get much confidence from either of them about whether they'll be able to fix this during the next two weeks.

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That McLaren is so quick it’s ridiculous. But I do feel that Ferrari will converge on a setup that will start to offer some promise.
Right now though catching up to McLaren seems a long way off, mainly because it’s hard to tell where to improve to actually get on top of them

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It seems to me that the Ferrari hit the ground running slightly ahead of the rest on Friday and Lewis executed that setup to perfection for the sprint pole & win, but once main qualifying turned around and the other teams made their steps Ferrari couldn't keep up and lost pace. From the sound of it, the car also went backwards in the race outright and the conditions changing did not suit the cars at all. The sprint shows that once the car is properly put together it has winning pace and can even put manners on the McLaren, but the team lacks experience and familiarity with the car's responses to varying conditions and setup changes. Suzuka is a conventional track with 3 FP sessions, so plenty of time to bed in the car and the drivers more. Alarm bells will only really start ringing if the car is still poor in Bahrain.

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They need to do what they did in the Dutch GP 23, try different ways to setup this car.
In perfect conditions it should at least be able to fight Mercedes and Red Bull.
Mclaren is in a whole different league.

Seems like it doesn't have the strengths of previous models, previous Ferrari's were always really good at traction for example... today we had Leclerc saying how he can't keep up with Russell on traction.

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Ferrari have a normal pace, they just pushed hard at the beginning of the segments, and Leclerc had a pretty bad injury, they were driving in dirty air, you have to remember that yesterday in the sprint where Norris beat in dirty air, the answer is nowhere, Leclerc also pushed hard on Russell and killed the tires, so I'm sure the car is fast, yes, so far it's slower than McLaren, but you just need to figure out the setup, I think this is Ferrari's main problem

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so they slowed down lewis during the race to let leclerc pass because he couldn't overtake lewis only to go and get stuck behind russel and even gets overtaken by verstappen all to not even give the place back
all after hitting him on turn 1

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Venturiation wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 12:30
so they slowed down lewis during the race to let leclerc pass because he couldn't overtake lewis only to go and get stuck behind russel and even gets overtaken by verstappen all to not even give the place back
all after hitting him on turn 1
The lengths you people will go to in order to villainize one driver is insane to me.

There's a 0% chance Hamilton cares about any of this crap. He was slower in the first stint and wasn't able to make up enough time in the third one, probably because they had the wrong setup. There isn't a grand conspiracy against him to favor Leclerc, the team just fumbled the weekend.

The result would've been the exact same even if they hadn't swapped, there was no way Hamilton would've been able to overtake or defend any more or less than Leclerc would've. Especially since he was struggling even more in sector 3.

If they didn't swap people would complain about Hamilton holding Leclerc up. The swap was a good idea even if it didn't make a difference. That's why Hamilton suggested it. He's not an idiot or pushover.
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Potential DSQ for Leclerc, his car was underweight. How could they have messed this up? Like seriously is the team just incompetent?

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 12:39
Potential DSQ for Leclerc, his car was underweight. How could they have messed this up? Like seriously is the team just incompetent?
just saw this... oh my god, just give us a straight weekend please... :cry:

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It seems to me that this is quite a strong damage and a couple of tens if not more are lost on average
https://x.com/Vetteleclerc/status/19037 ... 88/photo/1

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Fakepivot wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 12:43
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 12:39
Potential DSQ for Leclerc, his car was underweight. How could they have messed this up? Like seriously is the team just incompetent?
just saw this... oh my god, just give us a straight weekend please... :cry:
Didn’t Brundle clear this up. Broken parts can be replaced at the end of the race, to make up for the loss of weight.

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the document read after they put a new wing and drained all the fluids it was down by 1kg