2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[ME4ME]

Having just watched Verstappens FP2 session onboard:

- His fastest lap was compromised by trafic on his out lap, complaining his tyres were not up to temp. Visibly not a great lap. A later lap looked much better, but tyres were 6-7 laps old by then.
- He's struggeling with oversteer in turn 12 and traction out of the last corner, at one point suggesting he's got too much front wing on.
- Momentary loss of power mid-turn 3 on a coast lap.
- Gear shifts seem rough on coast laps.
- His engineer asks him to try lift&coast strategies into turn 4 and 7. Obviously preparing for the race.
- On both in-laps after qualifying and race simulation his engineer requests him to focus on cooling the engine. Sounded a bit urgent. Also they inform Max to keep his engine running for when stationary. Probaly to keep coolant circulating for a while. RBH probaly running close to the thermal limit.
- His engineer informs him of the Ferraris and Mercedes' average stint times, specifically saying that Leclercs stint on the hards was on low fuel. Teams know exactly what everyone is doing by now..

[Ground Effect]

Any long run data, especially for Carlos?

[dxpetrov]

Who is Carlos and what does he have to do with Red Bull message board?!

[Marti_EF3]

Any long run data, especially for Carlos?

Maybe he mean Darren

[yener]

Having just watched Verstappens FP2 session onboard:

- His fastest lap was compromised by trafic on his out lap, complaining his tyres were not up to temp. Visibly not a great lap. A later lap looked much better, but tyres were 6-7 laps old by then.
- He's struggeling with oversteer in turn 12 and traction out of the last corner, at one point suggesting he's got too much front wing on.
- Momentary loss of power mid-turn 3 on a coast lap.
- Gear shifts seem rough on coast laps.
- His engineer asks him to try lift&coast strategies into turn 4 and 7. Obviously preparing for the race.
- On both in-laps after qualifying and race simulation his engineer requests him to focus on cooling the engine. Sounded a bit urgent. Also they inform Max to keep his engine running for when stationary. Probaly to keep coolant circulating for a while. RBH probaly running close to the thermal limit.
- His engineer informs him of the Ferraris and Mercedes' average stint times, specifically saying that Leclercs stint on the hards was on low fuel. Teams know exactly what everyone is doing by now..

I watched a couple of laps from MV in FP2 and to be honest... it was horrible. The engine sounded horrible, not smooth and with something like engine cutouts. (i also saw him losing power at turn 3).

This season was never ment to be a "super" season for RBR. But they are really of the pace right now. They are strugling a lot and they are a whole second of the pace.

If i would be Max, i would definitly sign for Mercedes for 2021, or maybe even next year. Depends on what LH wil do. One thing is for sure, this season is lost.

[Ground Effect]

Who is Carlos and what does he have to do with Red Bull message board?!

So sorry guys, wrong posting...

[nzjrs]

I also watched FP2 on-board, after previously watching baku FPs onboard. For the third? session with the PU it seems they are more cautious this week than the first with the new spec. It feels to me like FP1 and 2 were pretty much shakedown runs. Surprising, but it makes me think they did some internal plumbing or other less viable changes they are keeping an eye on.

Anyway, sometimes I feel people here are too emotional, swinging between sorrow and anticipation ecstasy. Let's all enjoy the journey more, the destination personally doesn't excite me as much.

[rogazilla]

I also watched FP2 on-board, after previously watching baku FPs onboard. For the third? session with the PU it seems they are more cautious this week than the first with the new spec. It feels to me like FP1 and 2 were pretty much shakedown runs. Surprising, but it makes me think they did some internal plumbing or other less viable changes they are keeping an eye on.

Anyway, sometimes I feel people here are too emotional, swinging between sorrow and anticipation ecstasy. Let's all enjoy the journey more, the destination personally doesn't excite me as much.

Keep in mind Max ran the spec 1 PU in FP1 and spec 2 PU in FP2. Therefore FP1 is not shakedown and putting the car together between the 2 session may have caused the issue?

Gasly ran spec 1 PU in both sessions.

[ispano6]

Just wait and see what tomorrow brings.

Red Bull has been left "a little on the back foot" after bringing forward an engine upgrade, according to Max Verstappen.


Max Verstappen says Red Bull has been left “a little on the back foot” after being forced to change the Honda power unit on his Formula 1 car.

Red Bull had originally planned to update to the Spec 2 Honda engine on both its cars ahead of final practice, but opted to bring forward the upgrade to FP2 after Verstappen encountered an oil leak during opening practice for the Spanish Grand Prix.

The Dutchman recovered to end the day fifth fastest - 0.751s down on Friday pacesetter Valtteri Bottas - but admitted the power unit change had a knock on effect for FP2.

“During FP1 we had an oil leak so we had to change the engine ahead of FP2, which put us a little on the back foot,” Verstappen said.

“I think that’s also a little bit of the reason why, in the second practice session, we were not exactly where we wanted to be set-up wise with the balance of the car, but we have enough data to understand and improve it for tomorrow.

“During the two practice sessions we tried to improve the car and understand the new updates, which I think we did,” he added.

“I have a good feeling about the upgrades, which work for sure, and the tyres seem to be working quite well, too. The long runs were okay and we still need to find a little bit of pace, but we have the whole night to find it.”

It was an encouraging day for Pierre Gasly, who ended up eighth quickest in FP1 before improving to seventh in second practice, ending up just two tenths behind his Red Bull teammate.

“Overall, today felt good and it was a pretty positive day,” Gasly said.

“I think we’ve taken a step forward and the first feeling with the car is good. Of course, as a driver you always want more grip, but I think in terms of balance it was good and so I’m really happy.

“It’s only the first day of running so it’s too early to make any conclusions and we need to understand more about this package.

“It’s clear Mercedes and Ferrari have made a pretty big step, but we ran a lot of tests today, so now we need to analyse everything tonight and try to put everything together for tomorrow.”

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/919672/1/ ... verstappen

[Jaisonas]

Having just watched Verstappens FP2 session onboard:

- His fastest lap was compromised by trafic on his out lap, complaining his tyres were not up to temp. Visibly not a great lap. A later lap looked much better, but tyres were 6-7 laps old by then.
- He's struggeling with oversteer in turn 12 and traction out of the last corner, at one point suggesting he's got too much front wing on.
- Momentary loss of power mid-turn 3 on a coast lap.
- Gear shifts seem rough on coast laps.
- His engineer asks him to try lift&coast strategies into turn 4 and 7. Obviously preparing for the race.
- On both in-laps after qualifying and race simulation his engineer requests him to focus on cooling the engine. Sounded a bit urgent. Also they inform Max to keep his engine running for when stationary. Probaly to keep coolant circulating for a while. RBH probaly running close to the thermal limit.
- His engineer informs him of the Ferraris and Mercedes' average stint times, specifically saying that Leclercs stint on the hards was on low fuel. Teams know exactly what everyone is doing by now..

I watched a couple of laps from MV in FP2 and to be honest... it was horrible. The engine sounded horrible, not smooth and with something like engine cutouts. (i also saw him losing power at turn 3).

This season was never ment to be a "super" season for RBR. But they are really of the pace right now. They are strugling a lot and they are a whole second of the pace.

If i would be Max, i would definitly sign for Mercedes for 2021, or maybe even next year. Depends on what LH wil do. One thing is for sure, this season is lost.

The engine was fine, F1TV's audio is f cked and its distorting the actual sound

[Jaisonas]

The oversteer may be caused by engine braking, Max said that it was feeling like a handbrake at the hairpin and after that he lost the rear. He did say something like that in baku as well

[GhostF1]

The oversteer may be caused by engine braking, Max said that it was feeling like a handbrake at the hairpin and after that he lost the rear. He did say something like that in baku as well

Didn't hear him say that at this GP. He said it in Baku mid race, but he changed a couple settings and said that's much better!
It's all setup.

[langedweil]

Kinda unexpected, but nice split of the Ferrari's ... podium might be up for grabs.

[shingles]

Kinda unexpected, but nice split of the Ferrari's ... podium might be up for grabs.

Funny thing is the team has been saying they are getting closer to Ferrari and people on this forum said they were lying and sky is falling. Truth is we really don’t know. I am old enough to know not to get so worked up till the checkered flag.

[Bill]

0.9 tenth gap if you take away Bottas amazing 0.6 gap from Lewis then a deficit of 0.3 tenth would have looked respectable