2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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lh13 wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 21:14
vorticism wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 18:38
It’s been eight months and there’s still not been one article, press release, employee statement, nor pundit’s commentary able to answer one simple question: why on Earth would you replace Chrisian Horner with... Laurent Mekies?
Same reason Real Madrid replaced Alonso with Arbeloa. They wanted a yes man, who does what he's told, nothing more, nothing less.
Especially after the Thai side lost their majority.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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f1isgood wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 21:18
lh13 wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 21:14
vorticism wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 18:38
It’s been eight months and there’s still not been one article, press release, employee statement, nor pundit’s commentary able to answer one simple question: why on Earth would you replace Chrisian Horner with... Laurent Mekies?
Same reason Real Madrid replaced Alonso with Arbeloa. They wanted a yes man, who does what he's told, nothing more, nothing less.
Especially after the Thai side lost their majority.
Mintzlaff-Mekies-Waché are no Mateschitz-Horner-Newey. RBR may coast on its fame for another season or two, but I can't see them reigniting their heydey, because the RB board apparently see their heyday as a bad thing. “Because Horner,” I guess.

I get the impression that the heads of RB found themselves in a discomforting position, shoulder to shoulder with Horner after Mateschitz passed away. There they were, toe to toe with someone they had no capacity to spar with. Petty resentments & envies followed. Horner would have to go, for the pride of insecure upper managers and shareholders. My armchair psychopathologizing. To say nothing of elements outside of RBR who may have played a role in Horner's ouster.

Max Verstappen and the old guard rank-and-file who remain at RBR are the only ones left of the once-maverick team who took the fight to all the big names and not only competed with them, but trounced them. The Red Bull board, now seemingly composed of insecure & envious types, will have no choice but to see Verstappen as too-reminiscent of the Horner era. They will have to target and undermine Verstappen at some point. It is inevitable, it’s written into their DNA. They’re resentful of Horner and what was accomplished during his tenure, and it was Horner who hired Verstappen. So Max will have to go at some point. The new higher-ups will demand it, even if they never say it. And not just Max. Any old-guard employee who reminds them too-much of the victorious era. It does give Verstappen a "good" moment to depart the sport, do some motor-racing elsewhere, and potentially return if a seat opens at another team. "Getting tired of Mario Kart, honestly..."

From maverick to milquetoast. Newey won’t be able to repeat such a phenomenon with Stroll.

History will have to note that this team was only ever defeated off-track. In 2014, and again in 2024-2025. In hindsight it’s perhaps more endearing what happened in 2023, after the death of Dietrich. To win every race. Almost if it was a last testament and thank-you, to the man who supported their efforts.
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Sergej wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 21:32
What the...
No way?
Would explain why it behaves like a truck :lol:
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Sergej wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 21:32
If this is true, then there's hope for this season, no?

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Can someone tell in short how much weight they can lose by getting to the min. weight?

Edit: If I understand correctly, RedBull is around 30kg overweight? (given that the info above is correct)

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If that is true, we are in a similar position to 2022. It took one year to get rid of all the overweight (even though they probably had a lighter chassis ready for Singapore but they skipped it due to the budget cap issue).

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Yes the car is 30kg overweight if the above is true.. is it possible that the weight on the weigh bridge is taken with a certain amount of ballast that only red bull know the exact amount of which is communicated to the FIA so that other teams can't spy on their weighbridge results?
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Minimum weight is 768 kg

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Williams said it takes them about 6 races to come close to min weight iirc and they are also over by 20-30 kg what can be heard.

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Once Red Bull fixes their 20 kg overweight issue, they will gain like 1 second in race pace, because of the cumulative effect of that. Wache and Balbo didn't forget how to design a winning car, it's just that the car is in an early half finished state. That's my optimistic take :D.

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Sergej wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 21:32
The clock on the computer places these photos just after the qualifying session for the GP which took place from 15:00-16:00 local time. So now we have a lot of answers. The car is running in another weight class (+20kg above). #-o


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What this would mean is that they also have to carry even more fuel in the race because a heavier car uses more energy to cover the same number of laps. PU is also even better than it looks, considering the weight penalty. Heavier car uses more deployment to reach the same speeds.
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I'm a bit shocked tbh.
How can they be that much above the limit with being a works team?

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Valeo wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 22:16
I'm a bit shocked tbh.
How can they be that much above the limit with being a works team?
What should being a works team change in that regard?

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They're not shedding 30kgs by end of the year. This is peak incompetence. Williams level incompetence.

Also this doesn't explain why the car is generally --- at everything lol. The 2022 car had very clear strengths even while being so heavy. There's nothing on this car.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.